So looking for a new /used tractor- I have looked at the MF-1835/1840 and the YanmarYT235- but for less $$ or the same I can get a TYM 474 which has more HP and more options as std- So why is the MF/Yanmar more $$- Are they that much a better tractor and if so why??- thks for the advice-
Why are Massey ferguson and Yanmar so much more than TYm for what seems like less??
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I think partially it's because the name brand says they are worth more. Like buying a Deere or a Mercedes. The other part is likely that the cheaper tractor does have some cheaper parts on it and was built by cheaper labor. The choice depends upon your needs and your budget. I wouldn't recommend the cheapest anything for commercial or heavy use. But if you are just hobby farming the TYM could be a good choice. Kioti too.
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One caution (broken record on this site): consider the local dealer support no matter what you buy. It ought to be a primary decision criteria.
Harry in Ky
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Add product support. Too much of this Korengineered stuff has a problem of spare parts disappearing after just a few years. It seems these companies combine, then separate again, and the models produced during those years are discontinued, forgotten, and more or less orphaned. If you happen to own one and need anything other than off the shelf bearings, seals, and belts, you can be looking for a while.
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Because Massey Ferguson (Iseki), Yanmar, and Kubota are all made in Japan. It’s more expensive to manufacture in Japan and Made in Japan products are known to be high quality.
You can get more power and options for the same or less money going with Korean made TYM, LS, and Kioti.
Similar to why Honda and Toyota cost more than Kia and Hyundai.
You can get more power and options for the same or less money going with Korean made TYM, LS, and Kioti.
Similar to why Honda and Toyota cost more than Kia and Hyundai.
paulsharvey
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Ok, so, let's start by on the MF, 1835E vs 1835M. What I've seen the E series is very competitive in pricing. The nicer M series are up there on price.
Deere has the same system; don't really think Kubota/Kioti/TYM have an economy vs full fearuew series in the same class of machine. Yanmar, no idea on their system, they kinda are a weird niche machine in my part of the world, some Mahindra dealers have them, but those particular dealers are mostly Gravel/Mahindra/dump trailer outfits, with some Yanmars. That's not to say they aren't good machines, they just are common here.
Deere has the same system; don't really think Kubota/Kioti/TYM have an economy vs full fearuew series in the same class of machine. Yanmar, no idea on their system, they kinda are a weird niche machine in my part of the world, some Mahindra dealers have them, but those particular dealers are mostly Gravel/Mahindra/dump trailer outfits, with some Yanmars. That's not to say they aren't good machines, they just are common here.
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What I see, MF 1840E, $28,900; for a 4x4, hydro, with loader. That's competiveky priced with a CK4010, and frankly, probably beats it. TYM 3515H is like $27,900. Now, for some reason, a TYM 494 is only $29,500, HST, loader, 4x4... If I was in the market, specifically looking at TYM, I would be hard pressed to not step up from 35hp to 49ho for just $1600.
It looks like a MF 1840M, loader ,HST, 4x4, is running $36,100
So, what I'm saying; if you are comparing the price and machines; make sure you actually are comparing them. As in, don't look at/test drive an E, and look at the price of an M. Totally different machines.
It looks like a MF 1840M, loader ,HST, 4x4, is running $36,100
So, what I'm saying; if you are comparing the price and machines; make sure you actually are comparing them. As in, don't look at/test drive an E, and look at the price of an M. Totally different machines.
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The Yanmar YM347/359 are their economy shuttle shift tractors. The Yanmar YT347/359 are their deluxe tractors.
paulsharvey
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I dont have any issue with TYM at all (or LS or Kioti, or Mahindra) But, if you offered me comparable machines, at the same price; I would likely choose Massey/Kubota/Deere/New Holland, before I choose Kioti (and I own one)/LS/TYM. Yanmar is a hard fit, I'd might go Kioti/LS then Yanmar, then TYM/Mahindra.
That is partly, there just aren't many Yanmars around, and I question their commitment to the US compact market,
That is partly, there just aren't many Yanmars around, and I question their commitment to the US compact market,
CaptPat
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One could ask the same question as to why Deere and Kubota are more expensive than a better-equipped MF. I don't have any reasons to add to what previous posters have identified. For me, it came down to the dealer. If TYM floats your boat go for it.