Why did South Carolina put my GVW at 10,000# for a 1/2 ton truck?

[Lilly01]

My research leads me to believe that overstating the GVWR might cause a problem at the weight station. Example.. My dodge 2500 is registered at, and the door sticker says 7999 GVWR . I tow a gooseneck trailer with a 18000 GVWR. That keeps me below the 26001 combined non commercial GVWR that would require a CDL to operate the rig.
Last time I re registered the gal offered to up the trucks registered GVWR to 10000. I declined.

 

[joshuabardwell]

I think the GCVW is gross carring vehicle wheight

GCWR is Gross Combined Weight Rating. GCWR is the maximum gross weight of the vehicle AND its trailer. The GVWR is the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating, which is the maximum gross weight of the vehicle itself, not counting any trailer. Part of where it gets confusing is that GVWR does include the tongue weight of the trailer, since that is being carried by the vehicle.

I never heard of GCVW, but I think you may be confusing it with GCWR.

 

[Diamondpilot]

My research leads me to believe that overstating the GVWR might cause a problem at the weight station. Example.. My dodge 2500 is registered at, and the door sticker says 7999 GVWR . I tow a gooseneck trailer with a 18000 GVWR. That keeps me below the 26001 combined non commercial GVWR that would require a CDL to operate the rig.
Last time I re registered the gal offered to up the trucks registered GVWR to 10000. I declined.

7999 GVWR is pathetic. My 04 F250's is 10,000 and my 06 F350 SRW is 11,500.

Your truck has to weigh in at 7500# if 4x4 and diesel with you in it. That leaves a legal 500# for people, cargo, or tongue/pin weight. That means it could only legally tow a 5000# trailer and have the proper 10% tongue weight. This is typical with Dodge.

My comparable Ford's have 2500# avaliable with the F250 and 3900# with the F350.

Chris

 

[newbury]

No clue! What I do know is they haven't the faintest idea the difference between what GVW and GCVW is. She was trying to tell me I could only tow 2300# or some such foolishness and I was like "um you're wrong lady". I said "see this window sticker? Here is the GVW for THIS vehicle". I could tell it went over her head. Only reason I set it at 8000 instead of the listed 7200 was the fee was going to be the same anyways.

I'm sure that the South Carolina DMV employees are all highly intelligent experienced people with stellar educations being paid very highly. But in Virginia the ones I've encountered tend to either be one or two of the following:
young & inexperienced
foreign speaking with a minimal grasp of english
old and unaccustomed to those new fangled things that replaced horses

And I suspect their pay is in align with their capabilities.

They were going to rate my F350 dually for 25,999 lbs GVWR so it kept under the 26K CDL rating. Luckily I foresaw to bring the window sticker (which the original owner had saved) so I could show them the 11,500 rating.

I can't even imagine how they would even allow a truck like mine to have a 10,000 gvw because it would GREATLY exceed the max payload. She tried to tell me the gvw had to do with towing and I said "no it does not!". I even showed her on the website with my phone where it stated that I was right. Couldn't they look at the curb weight of the vehicle and tell it was a 1/2 ton truck??

1/2 ton is meaningless. A new F350 DRW has a 3.5 ton capacity, yet it's still called a "1 ton", your Silverado can carry about 3/4 ton PLUS. Two Ford F150's (nominally a 1/2 ton truck) are rated for over 3K pounds, or a ton and a half.

 

[tcartwri]

Got my new registration in the mail today for my new 2014 Silverado. Noticed that the GVW was listed at 10,000# I looked on the sticker that came with the truck and it had it listed it at 7200#. Needless to say I high-tailed it up to the DMV to straighten them out. After showing them the window sticker with the listed GVW and arguing with them for what seemed like forever, I finally convinced them to list the truck at 8000#. I did this because the $80 fee was the same for a truck with a 7001-8000 GVW. Has anyone else had a major screw-up like this before with their DMV?

As per my previous comment about adding the 'potential trailer weight' to your GVW fee; This is straight from the South Carolina Legislature site.

www.scstatehouse.gov

SECTION 56-3-660. Fees for self-propelled property carrying vehicles; determination of vehicle gross weight; registration of apportionable vehicle for payment of one-half of State's portion of license fee.

(A) The determination of gross vehicle weight to register and license self-propelled property carrying vehicles is the empty weight of the vehicle or combination of vehicles and the heaviest load to be transported by the vehicle or combination of vehicles as declared by the registered owner. All determinations of weight must be made in units of one thousand pounds or major fraction of one thousand pounds. The declared gross vehicle weight applies to all self-propelled property carrying vehicles operating in tandem with trailers or semitrailers except that the gross weight of a trailer or semitrailer is not required to be included when the operation is to be in tandem with a self-propelled property carrying vehicle licensed for six thousand pounds or less gross weight, and the gross vehicle weight of the combination does not exceed nine thousand pounds.

So because;

a; it's a pickup and therefor a property carrying vehicle ( Note if it was an SUV like a suburban this would not apply )
and
b; the factory GVWR exceeds 6000 lbs

The clerk at the DMV was correct and you have registered your truck in such a manner that you cannot tow anything. Interestingly, I could NOT find this information on the SC DMV site... :confused2:

 

[sd455dan]

My research leads me to believe that overstating the GVWR might cause a problem at the weight station. Example.. My dodge 2500 is registered at, and the door sticker says 7999 GVWR . I tow a gooseneck trailer with a 18000 GVWR. That keeps me below the 26001 combined non commercial GVWR that would require a CDL to operate the rig.
Last time I re registered the gal offered to up the trucks registered GVWR to 10000. I declined.

That sounds odd- ( 7999 gvwr) my 03 srw 3500 gvwr is 9900lbs. i thought the 2500s weighed almost the same which from all accounts is 7k lbs. plus??

 

[joshuabardwell]

That means it could only legally tow a 5000# trailer and have the proper 10% tongue weight. This is typical with Dodge.

Here are the specs for my truck: 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 SLT Quad Cab Short Bed 5.9L HO Diesel Engine

GVWR: 9000 lbs
Curb Weight: 6813 lbs (nominal) - 7220 lbs (weighed 3/8/2012)
Max payload: 2187 lbs (nominal) - 1780 lbs (weighed 3/8/2012)

 

[Lilly01]

7999 GVWR is pathetic. My 04 F250's is 10,000 and my 06 F350 SRW is 11,500.

Your truck has to weigh in at 7500# if 4x4 and diesel with you in it. That leaves a legal 500# for people, cargo, or tongue/pin weight. That means it could only legally tow a 5000# trailer and have the proper 10% tongue weight. This is typical with Dodge.

My comparable Ford's have 2500# avaliable with the F250 and 3900# with the F350.

Chris

Do I note hostility?
My 2003 dodge 2500 weighs in at 6200 lbs at the landfill scale. It is 2wd and is rated to tow about 12500 lbs. I tow a tri-axle gooseneck trailer rated at 18000 GVWR. 7999-6200=1799. Simple math. Since part of a goosenecks weight is on the truck bed it can pull that much more than its tow rating.
I however only tow about 10000 lbs including the trailer.
But my original point was that over stating the tow vehicle GVWR might place you in jeopardy of exceeding the 26000 combined rating that will require a CDL to operate.
I'm not into bashing makes. You drive what you want/have. I drive what I want/have.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Do I note hostility?
My 2003 dodge 2500 weighs in at 6200 lbs at the landfill scale. It is 2wd and is rated to tow about 12500 lbs. I tow a tri-axle gooseneck trailer rated at 18000 GVWR. 7999-6200=1799. Simple math. Since part of a goosenecks weight is on the truck bed it can pull that much more than its tow rating.
I however only tow about 10000 lbs including the trailer.
But my original point was that over stating the tow vehicle GVWR might place you in jeopardy of exceeding the 26000 combined rating that will require a CDL to operate.
I'm not into bashing makes. You drive what you want/have. I drive what I want/have.

A 2500 series truck that weighs 6200# is awfully light. Actually hard to believe. I know it's 2 wheel drive but 4x4 only adds 400# usually. We have 2 half tons, a 08 Nissan Titan that is 5680# and has a 7200# gvwr. We also have a 2011 F150 Eco Boost that is 5800# and has a 7700# gvwr.

Chris

 

[RollingsFarms]

A 2500 series truck that weighs 6200# is awfully light. Actually hard to believe. I know it's 2 wheel drive but 4x4 only adds 400# usually. We have 2 half tons, a 08 Nissan Titan that is 5680# and has a 7200# gvwr. We also have a 2011 F150 Eco Boost that is 5800# and has a 7700# gvwr. Chris

What do you have your gvwr listed as with the DMV concerning the Titan and F150 if you don't mind me asking?