Why "Diesel" oil?

   / Why "Diesel" oil?
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<font color=blue>They just changed the oils 6 yrs ago so you can't do it any more.</font color=blue>

Well, I suppose since that was the last time he changed the oil (six years ago), the current oil in the tractor ought to be just fine!! /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

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Just kidding by the way
 
   / Why "Diesel" oil? #22  
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When I bought kohler command 10w30 oil for my GT I noticed it is rated C something.I don't have the bottles left to check.I do know it said it could be used in diesels.MY L2650 manual say to use 10w30 also. Do you 'll think this would alright to use?Also would it be safe to use 15w40 because this is easier to find.
 
   / Why "Diesel" oil? #23  
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Penzoil makes 10w30 in Longlife( try to find it!) Case IH makes 10W30, diesel rated, that is what I'm using in my B7300.
 
   / Why "Diesel" oil? #24  
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Thanks for the post and URL RanchMan!

Bob
 
   / Why "Diesel" oil? #25  
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I don't know where you live in Michigan, but i have 12 tractors and 3 diesel pickups. I use 15W40 Rotella in all of them year around, and i don't have any problems at all. I only use 2 or 3 of them in the winter though, and they are diesels. (includeing a Kubota)
Now, if i lived in the upper part of the state or the UP, maybe i'd use something lighter in the winter??
Robert
 
   / Why "Diesel" oil? #26  
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I run Cat CXP 15W40 in my New Holland TC45D and my Ford pickup with the 7.3 diesel all year. I read an article in Construction Equipment some time back that claimed better diesel life using the Cat oil. If you are having trouble finding what you want I would reccomend a Cat, John Deere, or CNH dealer as these companies all put out branded diesel oil. I will check the bucket in my garage for API certification.

JT
 
   / Why "Diesel" oil? #27  
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Does Kubota have an oil made for them that they put their name on?
 
   / Why "Diesel" oil? #28  
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From an earler post


I have stayed out of the lubricant discussions for a long time. First let me say that I am not a lubricant expert. Second I will say that my dad was. He was a/the industral lubricant marketing engineer at Standard Oil of California (SOCAL/Chevron) for 28 years. He handled all lubricants except for aircraft lubircants. He did everythig from food machinery lubricants, to motor oil.

A quick history of Oil for Diesel engines (for reference see page 105 of "Caterpillar" by Randy Leffingwell). The first Cat Diesels has problems with sticky rings, the problem was worse when the engines were run with the asphalt based oils from the east coast. They ran better when running on the paraffin based oils from the west coast (Standard and Shell). Cat work with Standard Oil ot develope the first detergent oil (Delo). Shell soon followed with Rotella. Th interesting comment in the book is that the drill rings for the oil companies has to use either Standard or Shell products in the Diesels (it did not take them long to develope their own detergent oils). i remember when dad did the introduction of the first multi-viscoity oils to his customers. I also remeber the developement of the first synthetic oils.

The synthetics were developed to handle the problems encountered by the equipement operating on the North Slope. It was so cold that the paraffin in the oil would solidify, so the oil companies deveoped oils without a paraffin base.

My dad thought that synthetics were based used in extreme conditions (hot/cold), and that if the equipment was operating in normal contiditions it was better to spent one's money changing the oil more often rather than using synthetics.

I use Delo in my L3450. My dad said to use it in everything (cars etc).

As far as the viscosity ratings, you will find that the newer oils cover a wider range (15w-40 vs. 10w-30), it is ok to use an oil with a wider rating. Over time (to keep stocking and manufacturing issues down) you will only find the oil with the wider rating as the older rated ol is phased out.

You can use an oil with a higher service rating. Make sure the first letter is a "C" for diesel and the second letter is equal to or greater than the required rating. When SPI omes out with a new rating they insure that the earler ratings are included. Again this eases the stocking/manufacturing issues.

All the major manufactures relable their oil for other customers (like Sears, NAPA, the car/tractor dealers). The contracts are for several years and the oil company may change from contract to contract, so when you buy a relabled oil you have no way of knowing which oil comapny made it. When I was in high school we used Sears because my dad had their contract, I do not know who has it now.



carl
 
   / Why "Diesel" oil? #29  
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Carl,
Great post. Thanks for the info.
David
 

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