Why is green paint so expensive?

[dwmaster]

I just purchased a new tractor. I knew nothing about them. I found it impossible to shop not knowing what all the model numbers represented. Locally their was a owner of a blue, orange, and red tractor. I called each of them. They all said they wish they had bought green and will next purchase. While I was searching I noticed that the other colors could be found cheap, and the green ones were still bringing good money. If you could track length of time advertised to sell, green would win hands down also. I gaurente you take a 9 year old tractor with Identicle hours the green one will bring the original additional cost PLUS LOTS of $$$$$. This makes it smarter purchase if you plan to sell it. If you plan to keep it to the end then buy the cheaper color. They are all good

Green does't cost 8 or 9 thousand more model for model HP for HP. Its more like 2 or 3 thousand at the most.

Look at some completed e-bay auctions of equal tractors and it is easily proved.

 

[Darla]

I also know that you dont need to have been a farmer that was the tenth generation of farmer to farm your land to be able to make intelligent decissions about tractors.....That does not take a lifetime to figure out just basic math skills.

Oh my, I must have offended someone who obviously became an instant expert on tractors. Please accept my apologies on your intelligent "decission" to buy whatever you bought. The quickly earned intelligence shows. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. It bothers me naught. However, I'd suggest that you not bring your opinions of how you make your "intelligent decissions" and how dumb farmers are to any local grain elevator. You just may not get such a warm greeting telling them how dumb they are. I'm curious how your "basic math skills" have taken into consideration all the time tested total cost of ownership factors that those who bet their entire livelihood on had to learn the hard way. Do you have some secret mathematical algorithm that predicts the average cost of ownership over 30 years on these new, untested by time, tractors?

Again, please accept my apologies. I didn't realize that people become so intelligent in areas so fast when it takes others decades. I guess all my neighbors and relatives should have spent more time in school rather in the fields so they could have learned much faster how to make "intelligent decissions". Toodaloo now.

 

[gemini5362]

I just purchased a new tractor. I knew nothing about them. I found it impossible to shop not knowing what all the model numbers represented. Locally their was a owner of a blue, orange, and red tractor. I called each of them. They all said they wish they had bought green and will next purchase. While I was searching I noticed that the other colors could be found cheap, and the green ones were still bringing good money. If you could track length of time advertised to sell, green would win hands down also. I gaurente you take a 9 year old tractor with Identicle hours the green one will bring the original additional cost PLUS LOTS of $$$$$. This makes it smarter purchase if you plan to sell it. If you plan to keep it to the end then buy the cheaper color. They are all good

Green does't cost 8 or 9 thousand more model for model HP for HP. Its more like 2 or 3 thousand at the most.

Look at some completed e-bay auctions of equal tractors and it is easily proved.

Please read the earlier posts in this thread I believe you will find that I quoted the price difference that I found in my area as well as the price difference other people have found. I am not saying that it is the same for every part of the US but in some parts there is a significant difference

 

[gemini5362]

Oh my, I must have offended someone who obviously became an instant expert on tractors. Please accept my apologies on your intelligent "decission" to buy whatever you bought. The quickly earned intelligence shows. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. It bothers me naught. However, I'd suggest that you not bring your opinions of how you make your "intelligent decissions" and how dumb farmers are to any local grain elevator. You just may not get such a warm greeting telling them how dumb they are. I'm curious how your "basic math skills" have taken into consideration all the time tested total cost of ownership factors that those who bet their entire livelihood on had to learn the hard way. Do you have some secret mathematical algorithm that predicts the average cost of ownership over 30 years on these new, untested by time, tractors?

Again, please accept my apologies. I didn't realize that people become so intelligent in areas so fast when it takes others decades. I guess all my neighbors and relatives should have spent more time in school rather in the fields so they could have learned much faster how to make "intelligent decissions". Toodaloo now.

Darla first of all what makes you think I had quickly earned intelligence. I have grown up around tractors. When I was a young lad I used to play in my uncles 800 acre wheat field, or if we didnt play in that one we went down to my other uncles 600 acres of wheat. My father didnt own land to farm and worked for a cattle rancher who grew his own feed. I have many pleasant memories of helping out with growing the various items used in making silage.
I have owned my own tractors for the last 30 years. So I do not really feel like I have instant knowledge. I dont know of any algorithm that will tell me what the cost of ownership of any tractor is. I think 30 years ago kubota tractors were an unknown. Now they are considered to be a very good tractor. There are new brands on the market now that may be a very good and 30 years from now will be a brand that is known for its reliability. There are new models of John Deere tractors that are coming out that 30 years from now may have the reputation as something to avoid because of design problems. No one knows what will happen in 30 years. I would be very suprised if your relatives did not spend a lot of time in schools since successful farmers today use a lot of techniques they learned in college to intelligently manage their farm. If you would please look at my earlier posts in this thread you will find that I made reference to the difference between people that make their living farming and the people that have tractors for general use around their household. The object of my post was to point out that there are alternatives to JD tractors that are very intelligent decisions. For everyone JD tractors are not the best way to go. Some of the people that are posting in here think that if you dont buy JD you have no idea what you are doing and are making a huge mistake. That is simply not true. For the posters that are pointing out about buying JD because it is an american company. I agree with that sentiment but I would like to point out that being an american company does not stop JD from importing engines that are made in another country and giving that work to other countries. Are the people that work in american factories unable to make small engines ?

 

[patrick_g]

One thing I have noticed about this post. A lot of John Deere owners think you have descrated the brand name because you dont pay homage to it.

Same reaction with Hardley Davidson, voting a straight party ticket, B'mers, and religions. There is a basic underlying psycho-emotional thing that has to do with herd instinct (belonging) and related phenomena. It may be expressed in many ways but usually boils down to something like...

If you don't believe What I/WE believe, the WAY I/we believe it then I/we believe I/we have to kill you!

It is like a faith based thing.

Personally, I wasn't trying to join any sort of machinery color fan club irrespective of the long lived myths about being AMERICAN or foreign. I don't feel an ego need for braggin' rights down to the grain elevator or anywhere else.

I would not hesitate to buy a JD if they sold (note I didn't say BUILT) a superior tractor within the the prioritized requirements I had which included price way down on the list. I looked at feature for feature against my anticipated needs and then I looked at price. Rational thought prevented my going green in that instance. Who knows, maybe I will buy another tractor some day. If I do I will shop green again and if the decision matrix points at a green machine I would not hesitate a bit. Probably wouldn't trade in my current tractor in any case if it were still economical to repair and operate.

I dropped about $36K for tractor and first batch of implements. I don't spend those sums in cash very often and don't do it lightly. I had no reason whatsoever to not be interested in JD until after I had visited the dealership and done my comparisons.

If a tractor comes from a recognized manufacturer with good support, does what I need done, and costs less I am inclined to buy it. Resale is not an issue because I don't intend to sell it. If I want to speculate on resale value I would buy more land. The cowboy philosopher said, "Buy land, their not making any more of it."

Pat

 

[dgl24087]

Personally, I own a JD ag tractor. My purchase was made based on the experience of relatives and neighbors who own the same or comparable models. I was fortunate to buy this machine at $2-3000 less from the owner than the local dealership was selling the same model at with 4-5000 more hours. The only other difference is mine needs apint, the ones on the dealer's lot were reapinted and decaled. I would have purchased an equivalent Ford or other make had I been able to locate one with comparable hours at a comparable price, although I prefer the way the JD operates and the ergonomics. I could sell the tractor today at a tidy profit.

 

[mjarrels]

I remember years ago when wall street was on a roll that someone did a experiment using "coke cola". They set up two idenical booths on the street, one selling coke for $1.00 per can and one selling the same coke for $5.00 per can. Guess which one sold more cokes? $5.00 cokes were preceved to be better quality and for the folks on wall street money was not an issue.

mark

 

[gemini5362]

Oh my, I must have offended someone who obviously became an instant expert on tractors. Please accept my apologies on your intelligent "decission" to buy whatever you bought. The quickly earned intelligence shows. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. It bothers me naught. However, I'd suggest that you not bring your opinions of how you make your "intelligent decissions" and how dumb farmers are to any local grain elevator. You just may not get such a warm greeting telling them how dumb they are. I'm curious how your "basic math skills" have taken into consideration all the time tested total cost of ownership factors that those who bet their entire livelihood on had to learn the hard way. Do you have some secret mathematical algorithm that predicts the average cost of ownership over 30 years on these new, untested by time, tractors?

Again, please accept my apologies. I didn't realize that people become so intelligent in areas so fast when it takes others decades. I guess all my neighbors and relatives should have spent more time in school rather in the fields so they could have learned much faster how to make "intelligent decissions". Toodaloo now.

I am sorry if you got the opinion that I said farmers were dumb I believe you misread my post. What I said was that you did not have to have been a farmer for ten generations on the same farm to be able to make intelligent decisions. I am not saying anyone is dumb I am just saying you are able to make intelligent decisions without having grown up on farms. One of the ways you can do that is to visit forums like this one and see what people say about different tractors, You can ask people with models you are interested in etc etc. There are many ways to gather knowledge.