Why no Ecoboost in the F250?

   / Why no Ecoboost in the F250? #91  
It also doubles the cylinder pressures and effective compression ratio.

I'll pass on one of those.
Pass on an engine because it's turbocharged? Quick go tell every truck driver you see on the road that they're driving a ticking time bomb! Those pesky turbos are gonna all fail quick and blow the motors apart. 🤪
 
   / Why no Ecoboost in the F250? #92  
Anyways, even an EcoBoost is still far away from the piston pressures of a modern diesel engine.
If you get an aftermarket tune to add 50-80 HP to a 3.5L ecoboost, the cylinder pressures are getting right up into diesel engine territory though! And they seem to hold up just fine when tuned. I've been saving up my pennies to move into a late-model fully-spec'd 3.5L ecoboost F150 w/ 10-spd myself, but still have sticker shock and love my trusty ol' 2500HD.

A new Duramax or Scorpion is in the ~160-170 bar PCP (peak cylinder pressure) range.

But the 12.8L daimler or Volvo 11L I-6 semi truck motors are more like 220-240 bar PCP at rated power. Measuring this directly is a part of my job which I enjoy quite a bit here in the dyno lab.
 
   / Why no Ecoboost in the F250? #93  
If you have a truck that will get 18 mpg pulling 20,000 lbs you better hold on to it, because I doubt that you can replace it with anything made today.
Actually, that would be 20,000 gross weight, not pulling 20K as I mistakenly posted. It has to be interstate only, with me being in no hurry. I drive for a living, and during parts of my career my livelihood was dependent on my fuel mileage. Getting good fuel mileage has a lot to do with how you drive. I hauled a tractor to NC that was going to PA, and took the tractors that were coming down to Florida from the guy who met me there. He used right at twice the fuel I did per mile, even though we hauled the same tractors. It didn't make sense to him, but as I watched him pull out of the parking lot, it made perfect sense to me. Everyone is in a hurry these days!
David from jax
 
   / Why no Ecoboost in the F250? #94  
I would not mind having a 30 HP gasoline motor in my CUT one bit. And no, it wouldn't necessarily need to be turbo. Just 1.5L to 2.0L 3 or 4 cyl that revs up a bit higher - but it would still be quieter, just as durable, cleaner exhaust (even T4 CUTs are kinda stinky) with no DPF regeneration, and $4/gal fuel instead of $5.50/gal.

That said, it makes sense why they all stuck with diesel. The DPF addition was a relatively minor change on this type of product that gets minimal engineering investment for "new" models. Stick with what works, etc.
Having owned a gas powered 50HP gas tractor loader, it was 4 cylinder, didn't rev much higher than a diesel, but was much louder, and used a lot more fuel. Probably 40% more, at least. Maybe more. Other than that, it would knock a house over. Just as powerful.
 
   / Why no Ecoboost in the F250? #95  
Slightly off topic but I quit worrying about MPG decades ago. Outrunning the cops in my 400 HP 409, you could almost see the gauge going down! There is more to life than MPG. Drive smart and suck it up.
 
   / Why no Ecoboost in the F250? #96  
Pretty easy to dust the cops today as they ( for the most part) drive weenie vehicles but the bottom line is, pretty hard to outrun a Motorola.
 
   / Why no Ecoboost in the F250? #97  
Pretty easy to dust the cops today as they ( for the most part) drive weenie vehicles but the bottom line is, pretty hard to outrun a Motorola.
Our state patrols all drive Chargers, until next year when they are supposedly switching to all electric since Chrysler is now selling Last Call editions and dropping the line..
yeah not going to outrun a radio...
 
   / Why no Ecoboost in the F250? #98  
Electric huh? Knowing how local cops like to sit idle with the ac on, I can see them sitting with no juice.
 
   / Why no Ecoboost in the F250? #99  
Electric huh? Knowing how local cops like to sit idle with the ac on, I can see them sitting with no juice.
Same here none of the LE ever shuts off their vehicles state, sheriff, or city police.

Here is some info on the State Patrol switching to electric. I think they liked their Gas chargers, but with Chrysler dropping the gas model altogether...

 
   / Why no Ecoboost in the F250? #100  
Running climate control is a juice sucker. I find it quite funny that police departments want to go electric. I don't see that working out well...
 

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