why so many jeeps now on road?

[NoTrespassing]

WB,

I haven't needed a warranty lately for a Dodge or Jeep. I have used them on our Fords in the last five years. They have not been worthless, but then, I tend to follow their recommendations while under warranty. Saying warranties are worthless lowers the credibility of your other statements.

Your point about the Magnusson-Moss warranty Act may be valid, but like anything else, you can help or hurt your cause when you have a claim. You may be more intelligent than the engineers at Jeep, but that doesn't mean you can beat them when you have a claim.

I suspect that when they see OEM filters, anti-freeze, shocks, etc., changed out on a vehicle, the odds of a claim being accepted go down even if its unrelated. For that reason, I wouldn't try to convince others to follow that lead. Being right doesn't mean you win, and you have proved that in your last post.

For an additional $10 for anti-freeze, I am not going to worry about it. I have no need to argue more about it. I wish you well and hope that in the future, you have the best of luck with your vehicles and with your repairs.

Has anyone else NEVER changed antifreeze or am I the only one? My 99 Kubota has the same antifreeze I bought it with in 2003. The antifreeze in my truck is from about 2006 I think, deer took out the radiator. My 08 Hyundai has original antifreeze.

Kevin

 

[LouNY]

Most of my equipment has had anti-freeze changes, flushes and refills.

 

[Root Cause]

Has anyone else NEVER changed antifreeze or am I the only one? My 99 Kubota has the same antifreeze I bought it with in 2003. The antifreeze in my truck is from about 2006 I think, deer took out the radiator. My 08 Hyundai has original antifreeze.

Kevin

You can buy a cheap hydrometer to see if the antifreeze is still good. Here is a result from a google search

 

[the old grind]

I don't change coolants that often but have/use a guy like this:

3-in-1 Antifreeze Tester in Fahrenheit Scale for Checking Freezing Point and Concentration of Ethylene Glycol or Propylene Glycol Based Automobile Antifreeze Coolant, Also for Battery Acid Condition: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

3-in-1 Antifreeze Tester in Fahrenheit Scale for Checking Freezing Point and Concentration of Ethylene Glycol or Propylene Glycol Based Automobile Antifreeze Coolant, Also for Battery Acid Condition: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

www.amazon.com

 

[cdaigle430]

The REAL question is, why do so many jeeps need repairs?? I wouldn't own one if they were half the price!!

SR

I have a 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, 140,000 miles. Owned it since almost new, been in one minor front end fender bender. Still runs like new, had front struts replaced, front axle seal and bushing replaced, front drive shaft U joints replaced and other than normal maintenance still drives like new. I personally put 123,000 miles on it and it drives like new. I do have to replace the valve cover gasket soon.

very little rust and Im in Maine-Ive had it for 14 years now and I still love to drive it with heated seats, climate control, auto high beams, quadra drive II and so much power.

I am looking at the new Wagoneer but just want the one with infrared camera (so I can see and avoid deer and moose when I drive in northern Maine) and a 5.7 liter hemi (not the 6.4 monster).

That is why I had a front end fender bender-hit a deer.

 

[cdaigle430]

Jeeps made by Dodge. Not at all like the one that were by JEEP! Electronics are all screwed up ib both. Heat not working in either jeep, different years. To get to heater core the Entire dash has to be removed! We will never ever buy a jeep or dodge products again.

Jeep is not made by Dodge, but both are part of same parent company. I have owned 4 generations of Jeep and put over 150,000 miles on all of them except the one I drive now (have about 10,000 miles to go before I get there.) I have never lost a transmission, transfer case or engine on any of them. Not one single rebuid and all of them I still got over 5,000 bucks for trade in values.

Fiat Chrysler Automobiles

Have you ever wondered, “Who makes CDJR,” FCA, or Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, is the parent company that oversees the full Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge, RAM, FIAT, and Jeep brand.

 

[Hay Dude]

It’s Stellantis now.

 

[lman]

You can buy a cheap hydrometer to see if the antifreeze is still good. Here is a result from a google search
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That's a lot of miles on my tractor. Can't even find the odometer?

 

[Tinstafl]

-I have owned 4 jeeps:Two wranglers and two grand Cherokees. I towed three of them behind my motorhome. My 2001 wrangler had 300k miles towing and has been in many trails including a couple of the top ten. My current Rubicon is great too.

 

[the old grind]

You guys putting hundreds of K's of miles on CJs are driving off-road pro'ly as much as on-road, right? Or why not just mention how easy they are to park along with the other perks of ownership. (Karen is out there)

I pro'ly mentioned having owned a Jeep, CJ7 hard top, shtrait six 4-speed, with a year-old 7' 6-way 'lightweight' poly-moldboard plow, but it just wasn't me. I have 550' of gravel driveway, three 5' FEL buckets and three Edge Tamers (TM) for any of them and no niche for a pavement plow.

I would have loved to have needed that diamond in the rough CJ for any reason but never did and sold it to my FFL for $2100 within a year. I came so close to joining the club.

 

[Big Blue Florida]

Any manufacturer that wants to get into the ''JEEP thing'' should do so because in every vehicle brand there is a following who will buy anything w/ ''its'' label.

Hey, that's ok. Actually that's great. Sooner or later if they try to stay into the ''off road'' vehicle they will learn.

Competition only makes Jeep stay on their need to improve this or that. Of course this is only one old farts insight & I actually enjoy seeing other vehicles out there . . . in need of a pull out.

To be honest if anyone gets stuck ''out there'', brand just doesn't come into the equation . It happens to every brand but Jeep owners seem to go a bit farther out than most.

This is another reason I much enjoy the Gladiator as I tend to carry ''stuff''. Self recovery should be in everyone's self interest.

So if anyone ever gets down to NE Florida & wants to get dirty & have fun, give me a day of two heads up.

Be safe out there & be friendly

 

[paulfun9]

I see a lot of Jeeps on the road, I don't see that they are any worse then any of the other drivers on the road.
We all know that none of them except me can drive worth a darn

I see a lot of Jeeps on the road, I don't see that they are any worse then any of the other drivers on the road.
We all know that none of them except me can drive worth a darn.

what I find around here, is most of those complaining don’t bother to check themselves and in most cases are far worse drivers than those they complain about!

 

[paulfun9]

Glad to say I dont fit in that category, but still love the Jeep

I also don’t fit that profile and can say I love my Jeeps and to date they have proven the most reliable of anything else I ever owned long term.
Lots of trouble free miles with very minimal repairs and cost of repairs always seemed very reasonable compared to other cars and trucks I’ve owned.
Also never been stuck when it counted! Have gotten them stuck trying to do the impossible but floods, snow, mud, ice storms always had me getting where I needed to be without incident.

 

[paulfun9]

First person I ever saw that quoted the real mpg! Good on ya.

I got nothin against jeeps but I'm not a big fan of fads.

My 67 might get ten but my 80’s and 90’s both average between 20 and 24 depending on the type of driving I do.
If your getting that bad MPG find a new mechanic that can diagnose the problem and tune it properly!