why so many jeeps now on road?

[Steppenwolfe]

I had a Jeep Commando, circa 1973 model. This isn't it, but identical. Really rode and drove well, but traded it for a truck when I got out of college. Wish I had it today.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Mine was a '55 Willy's Wagon. Candy apple red, chrome wheels, varnished oak trim interior, leather upholstery, small block 'vette, and overdrive. Pulled a horse trailer many miles. Now I see it at car shows sometimes....Originally built by a HS shop class as a class project. I bought it from them.

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They used to build one of something classic every year as part of their shop education and then would sell it at the end of the spring semester.

My best friend in HS drove an old Willy's Wagon; many great memories in that. I don't think it could hit 45 mph down hill...

 

[JethroB]

A jeep graveyard after WWII in the South Pacific. Approximately 640,000 were made during the war with the vast majority sent overseas. Few were ever returned to the US. Willys made about 2/3 of them with Ford making the balance. Willys renamed the MB to CJ along with a few tweaks to go after the civilian post war market. (M = military, CJ = civilian jeep).

 

[rScotty]

I'll take that one there in the middle....

 

[Root Cause]

Mahindra was also licensed to build them after the war for the Indian market in the late 40's. That license expired long ago but that explains a bit about the Roxor they build just a few years ago and why they had to change to look of it after Fiat/Chrysler sued them.

 

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Mahindra was also licensed to build them after the war for the Indian market in the late 40's. That license expired long ago but that explains a bit about the Roxor they build just a few years ago and why they had to change to look of it after Fiat/Chrysler sued them.

Mahindra still has that license - it didn't "expire long ago".

The legal issue is that they marketed something that infringed upon the jeeps trademarked grill, in America. This was not part of the existing license.

 

[ultrarunner]

Paid 4.99 gallon for Chevron regular last night…

As mention it is possible to pay around 6 in SF proper…

Some are cheering the high prices to get people onto mass transit which was nearly deserted 18 months back.

Just saw another brand new Jeep with temp tags this morning.

Surprised that it still Jeep transcends generations in appeal and especially to young single women.

 

[the old grind]

Generations of single women keeping great traditions alive ...

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Gas is coming down here, I just paid $2.95 an hour ago...

SR

 

[Root Cause]

Mahindra still has that license - it didn't "expire long ago".

The legal issue is that they marketed something that infringed upon the jeeps trademarked grill, in America. This was not part of the existing license

I was making a general statement that I thought others might be interested in.

Maybe symmantics or where we are getting our information but according to Wiki, Jeep did give Mahindra a license to make CJs even sending them parts and drawings in the late 1940's.. They were sold in India. That was the license I was referring to.
The existing license is for the Thar, not a CJ which was the topic until now.

As for your statement regarding grill, this again is from Wiki.

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I doubt many care about the specifics so carry on and please feel free to correct whatever I have here in error.

 

[Hay Dude]

jeeps are like untrained dogs, they just roll over where ever they want! lol

SR

I think the 1970’s is calling and wants your opinion back. Lol

New Jeep’s are not nearly as prone to rollover. Mine is very stable and predictable.

 

[Hay Dude]

What my wife's Suburban LTZ gets and it's actually comfortable. I had one CJ 7 years ago. Never again. Handle terrible on the Interstate, fuel mileage sucks and ride like a buckboard.

When gas hit's 4 bucks a gallon, you'll really appreciate that sardine box.

The new Jeep pickup is fugly too. Guy down the road (Jeep employee) has one. Totally worthless toy.

I think it's an 'image' thing like the pickups with 4 doors and the short beds that are worthless for anything but groceries. Soccer mom special.

Living 15 miles north of Jeep in Toledo, I see them all the time and I see them for sale used all the time too. I'd say 90% of them, the only 'off road' they ever see is a drive across the lawn.

Things change. Vehicles improve. The new Jeep’s are infinitely improved over the old Jeep’s in features, performance, reliability, comfort and safety. More complicated? For sure. All newer vehicles are.
Just like those old M9000s you putt around in. The new versions of your tractor are improved in almost every way, except simplicity.

Comparing an old Jeep CJ7 to a Suburban LTZ is like comparing your M9000 to my Massey 7495. They aren’t even in the same league.
I bet you’ve never driven a new Wrangler or Gladiator, because if you did, you wouldn’t make the inference that they were like a Jeep CJ-7.
Heck CJ-7s haven’t even been built for like 30 years.
What was a suburban like in the 1980’s? Was it as refined and feature filled as today’s Suburban? Of course not…

 

[the old grind]

'Feature-filled' makes me think of a 1911 that's 'improved' over previous versions. Looks like the original? Close enough.

IMO Jeeps are like Corvettes and blondes, nice to look at but I don't really want another one.

 

[Hay Dude]

'Feature-filled' makes me think of a 1911 that's 'improved' over previous versions. Looks like the original? Close enough.

IMO Jeeps are like Corvettes and blondes, nice to look at but I don't really want another one.

I have a Jeep and a blonde.
Love em both.
When I say feature filled, I mean basics, like recline versus fixed seats, power windows and locks, turbocharged engine, a radio you can actually hear, as well as sophisticated available features like locking front & rear differentials, front axle sway bar disconnect, navigation.

Couldn’t get those in 70’s Jeep’s.

 

[Root Cause]

Things change. Vehicles improve. The new Jeep’s are infinitely improved over the old Jeep’s in features, performance, reliability, comfort and safety. More complicated? For sure. All newer vehicles are.
Just like those old M9000s you putt around in. The new versions of your tractor are improved in almost every way, except simplicity.

Comparing an old Jeep CJ7 to a Suburban LTZ is like comparing your M9000 to my Massey 7495. They aren’t even in the same league.
I bet you’ve never driven a new Wrangler or Gladiator, because if you did, you wouldn’t make the inference that they were like a Jeep CJ-7.
Heck CJ-7s haven’t even been built for like 30 years.
What was a suburban like in the 1980’s? Was it as refined and feature filled as today’s Suburban? Of course not…

I once had a CJ from Bedrock motors and it was that bad. The seats were rock hard, I felt every bump, and braking was well, painful.

 

[Hay Dude]

I once had a CJ from Bedrock motors and it was that bad. The seats were rock hard and I felt every bump and braking was well, painful.
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Yeah but it was simple and easy to fix.
Baahhahahaha

 

[Root Cause]

Yeah but it was simple and easy to fix.
Baahhahahaha

Yep, the good ole days when gas mileage was rated in calories burned.

 

[Hay Dude]

I once had a CJ from Bedrock motors and it was that bad. The seats were rock hard, I felt every bump, and braking was well, painful.
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Yeah but I had a pogo stick and it rode like a log wagon lol

 

[the old grind]

Henry the xenophobe's Model A was a big step up from his Model T in features .. if a bit less user-serviceable.

But honestly, IMO as to having a Jeep as a hobby/pet: You only need one to have fun.

 

[ultrarunner]

Model A about the same as serviceable but a few more things to service as 4 wheel brakes and separate emergency brake, water pump, sliding gear transmission and gas guage.

In some ways the Model A is easier... electric start standard and no carbide or oil lamps like early Model T

15 million T and 5 million A's produced.