Wild dog problem

[Patriotic Stabilist]

As my husband says use a shotgun then you don't have to be such a good shot.

We have cydogs here but they stay back in the woods, never seen them around here but we are near the river bottoms, so they stay out in there, but we sure hear them if the windows are up some nights.

 

[dmccarty]

Along what Patriotic Stabilist suggested, if the dogs are getting with in 15-25 yards a 12 gauge might work. The 00 Remington Buckshot I have shot for years has 9 pellets that will spread about a foot at 15 yards with a Remingon 870 pump shot gun that is not choked. That round will spread out to 36 inches at 50 yards I think. Never tried it but that is what I was told 15 years ago.

There is a new 12g 00 buck shell on the market and I think its Hornady FPD that at 15 yards does not spread much at all. Maybe 3-6 inches. Not something you would want to be shot with since it makes a big hole in paper. Point being for our wild dog eradication problem that if the distance is getting out around 50-75 yards this round might work in a shotgun. Key word might but its worth lookng into. Shutguns are cheap, useful and effective. Pumps are not exactly easy to use though compared to an autoload(Mo Money) or double/single shots.

I tried to find what ammo I was shooting but the closest I can find is the Hornady round I mentioned. I did notice that there is buckshot out there from different companies aimed at, pun intended, coyotes. If the dogs are getting within 40 yards or so a 12g with the right round should work as well. This might be easier and the pellets wont travel as far as a rifle round.

Later,
Dan

 

[jinjimbob]

Never use poison, EVER.

 

[RobertBrown]

Sailorbob,
You have some good advice and I'd like to reiterate some of it for you.
If you've made up your mind you need to dispose of these dogs and it appears you have, a quick method is best, the worst thing that could happen now is you shoot one of the dogs and wound it, now you have to live with that sound ringing through your ears and it's a bad one. Your wife might have a hard time dealing with that. Things could get really ugly if you don't take the time to make the job quick and painless.
First take the advice of tug hill addict and get the dog on your terms by using a bait on a consistent basis. This should only take a few days putting the bait out every evening an hour or two before dark, catfood should work well. The bait should be placed with in easy rifle range of the house and I like the second story as the back stop is the ground. A .22LR no more than 35 yards, the closer the better. The bait should be placed in front of an adequate back stop so the bullet is sure to be stopped and not pass into something a lot more valuable than this stray dog. All the while you are getting proficient with this rifle, I suggest a rifle, it's a lot more forgiving than a pistol. If you wound this dog and it runs to the neighbors you could have an animal cruelty charge, and that will make the news along with your picture. If you can get a bigger rifle great just remember as the effective range increases so does the possibity of collateral damage. The noise level is going to increase to and this shot should be taken from inside the house to avoid alerting anyone who may be opposed to this form of pest control.
Get your mind right...
Make sure that you aren't going to have any regrets as I'm sure you know once it's done it's done.
Based on what you've told us so far, if this is done properly you may have saved the dog from far worse fate like rabies, starvation, or getting run over.
Good luck
RB

 

[Eagleview]

Got a phone call last night from one of the large property owners around me to say that they had just done a group baiting and to keep an eye on my dog . They are having trouble with packs of dogs tearing the udders from the live cows , one cow had half it's face ripped off and had to be put down . When there are thousands of acres of scrub and hundreds of wild dogs killing everything in sight , poison is the ONLY option . 1080 is the only thing keeping these packs down , it has been cleverly made . An Eagle needs to find at least 3 buried baits to harm it . Gianna's don't seem to be affected by it . On the certificate that comes with it , it states that a dog , after eating a bait , will go back to it's den and go to sleep and die while asleep . Immediately after coming in contact with soil (the baits are buried) the bait starts breaking down . After a couple of weeks , the bait is nothing more than a nutrient in the soil . It is easy to say "No Poison" but imagine trying to eradicate Hundreds of Thousands of feral dogs Australia wide by shooting and trapping alone ? And every pregnant ***** you miss will add another 6 or so to the number .

 

[Sigarms]

I agree. But in this case, I knew I could make the shot. I did hit the dog I was aiming at, but of course, her rear end was all I had to shoot at

My point is from what you've described, it was a poor choice to shoot. The dog didn't drop.

Along what Patriotic Stabilist suggested, if the dogs are getting with in 15-25 yards a 12 gauge might work.

If the dogs are smart and leary of humans which they must to survive, I'm not certain they will be within 25 yards.

A well sighted 30-06 or .270 should solve the problem.

It is easy to say "No Poison" but imagine trying to eradicate Hundreds of Thousands of feral dogs Australia wide by shooting and trapping alone ?

What's amazing is Americans have it so well, yet are still lazy enough not to spay or neuter their dogs and let them roam without supervision.

And every pregnant ***** you miss will add another 6 or so to the number

Don't be sexist and forget about the un neutered males. We have a neighbors black lab who likes to roam who is pushing his luck. I don't blame the dog, but his owners, one reason why he's still alive.

The kicker is, humans are supposed to be smarter.

 

[HCJ]

Got a phone call last night from one of the large property owners around me to say that they had just done a group baiting and to keep an eye on my dog . They are having trouble with packs of dogs tearing the udders from the live cows , one cow had half it's face ripped off and had to be put down . When there are thousands of acres of scrub and hundreds of wild dogs killing everything in sight , poison is the ONLY option . 1080 is the only thing keeping these packs down , it has been cleverly made . An Eagle needs to find at least 3 buried baits to harm it . Gianna's don't seem to be affected by it . On the certificate that comes with it , it states that a dog , after eating a bait , will go back to it's den and go to sleep and die while asleep . Immediately after coming in contact with soil (the baits are buried) the bait starts breaking down . After a couple of weeks , the bait is nothing more than a nutrient in the soil . It is easy to say "No Poison" but imagine trying to eradicate Hundreds of Thousands of feral dogs Australia wide by shooting and trapping alone ? And every pregnant ***** you miss will add another 6 or so to the number .

These specific poisons (to my knowledge) are not available in th U.S. so the use of poisons for dog or coyote control is limited here. Can anyone purchase these poisons in Australia? Just curious.

 

[Eagleview]

These specific poisons (to my knowledge) are not available in th U.S. so the use of poisons for dog or coyote control is limited here. Can anyone purchase these poisons in Australia? Just curious.

Any property owner can purchase these made up baits from the Rural Lands Protection Board . Although for two years now , it has been a requirement to do a short poisons course to be allowed . It teaches you how to do it correctly so as to minimise affecting non target animals , how to dispose of the packaging etc . The baits are made of cattle organs and must be no less than 250 grams so that they are too heavy for birds to pick up . No meat on the bone is to be used as it may penetrate the marrow and cause the poison to last longer than intended . 1080 poison is also used in grain for Rabbit control .

It should be mandatory for property owners to show they have baited as most don't bother or are anti poison so the dog , fox and cat numbers just keep going up and the wildlife just keeps going down .