will this damage? hitch ball to drawbar

ericbx1500 · Dec 24, 2005

I'm missing something here? What are you attaching the drawbar too? Not your 3pt are you? Or is this the spot below my rear pto where it has a spot to add a hitch ball on the frame? Any photo's with a drawbar setup that shows the whole rear of the tractor?

NewToy · Dec 25, 2005

Blue,
I like that hook set-up you came up with. I think I'll have to get one of those going.

Thanks for the pic /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

ccsial · Dec 25, 2005

Assuming it is possible to flip the tractor, when the front wheels came up you simply push in the clutch (or get off the HST pedal). You'd have to be sleeping to get hurt.

RoyJackson · Dec 25, 2005

"Assuming it is possible to flip the tractor, when the front wheels came up you simply push in the clutch (or get off the HST pedal)"

Every safety article I've read on rear turn overs states one has less then a second to react...after that, the tractor has reached it's point of no return.

simonmeridew · Dec 25, 2005

When you pull a heavy load which is attached to a point below the (or acting on a force or moment below the axle) the harder the pull or force, the harder the force to pull the front axle/front of the tractor DOWN, not up. If you attach and pull from a point higher than the rear axle, that's how the front end will lift up.
If you are skidding out a log chained to the 3pth even though the hitch is lifted high, if the log is chained directly to the drawbar, if thefront end gets light and lifts, the log drops down and no longer acts as a weight to lift the front end. Where you run into trouble is if the log is chained a ways back there is no self correcting force.
They claim you can't act fast enough with the clutch to prevent a roll over.
simonmeridew

Bird · Dec 25, 2005

I know one can rear up and go over fast; guess it just depends on how quick you are. I remember seeing our little 1940 John Deere L rear up so high that I thought it was going over backward, and I think Dad did, too, but he already had his foot on the clutch and got it down in time; barely. I feel sure that if he hadn't already had his foot on the clutch, he'd have never been quick enough.

Berniep · Dec 25, 2005

I can remember farmers plowing with the front wheels bouncing off the ground almost all the way across trhe field and they steered with the brakes. Don't really know how the plows were attached. We changed over to complely no-till before I got old enough to run a plow I think the old plow has been used once in the last 20 years. Never heard of one going completley over.
Once in a whil while discing The old white would come up on me a little when it hit a patch of clay and the disc is pulled from the draw bar.

geish · Dec 25, 2005

( I'm missing something here? What are you attaching the drawbar too? Not your 3pt are you? Or is this the spot below my rear pto where it has a spot to add a hitch ball on the frame? Any photo's with a drawbar setup that shows the whole rear of the tractor? )

I'll post a pic when I take one.
I'm leaving the drawbar as-is. Attached to the tractor via the pin that secures it from the factory.
The 3pt. isn't involved in my situation in any way.

You know how the drawbar has a large diameter hole on it. I'll be attaching a hitch ball to it. I will then use that to attach the hook on to. The hook will have a trailing chain which will pull logs.

I really need to get my digital camera fixed.

Trev · Dec 25, 2005

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You know how the drawbar has a large diameter hole on it. I'll be attaching a hitch ball to it. I will then use that to attach the hook on to. )

The ball will be handy, for sure, if you want to move trailers and so on. My experience, though, is that your chain will fall off with some regularity. But perhaps that's just my poor technique.. I often have to back up and get another angle on the pull, and having a chain with a snap hook which can't come off without humanoid assistance is easier. Your idea will certainly work, although I wonder if it's really optimal for what you plan to do.

You can also just stick the hook end of a chain through the hole in the drawbar.. for quick and easy jobs.

It's been so long since I've posted here that I hope I can still remember how to attach a pic! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Regards,
Bob

have_blue · Dec 25, 2005

( They claim you can't act fast enough with the clutch to prevent a roll over. )

This is true only if you're going way too fast. I usually skid at 1200 RPM in 3rd gear, which is probably 3-4 MPH. If I snag something at that speed, I should have 3-4 seconds to react... even if the engine didn't kill. So far I have hung up 4 or 5 times, never reared up. The tires usually spin or the engine kills. In the event neither happens, I'm guessing the engine would lose 200 RPM and the tractor would rear up in slow motion. I guess running at real high RPM, the tractor could get away from you in a hurry!

Safety first! There's no use in living dangerously just to save a minute or 2 skidding a log.