Winterizing diesel

[RjCorazza]

I strongly encourage operators that are not familiar with #1 diesel, #2 diesel, winterized blends, additives, and fuel gelling issues to get their information from a reliable source.

 

[LouNY]

Being as how winter and cold are coming this subject gets lots of play in a lot of forums.
I just posted a pdf on fuels from my owners manual for my RAM 1500.
View attachment fuel and fuel heater.pdf
On the 3rd and 4th page,
They have one definition of fuel types and temperatures.
enjoy

 

[W8BYA]

I use the gauge on the side of the jug. I glug, glug, glug. Rough guess. Always error on the high side. It's not rocket science.

Very respectfully NO, NO, NO ! You do not want to add more then suggested by the maker of the anti-gel. Learned that the hard way when I "glugged, glugged, glugged" in some on one of my tractors years ago. What it basically did was turn the diesel into something closer to gasoline and the tractor barely would start and most of the time could not be kept running. I strongly suggest to NOT TO OVER GLUG the anti-gel.

 

[ovrszd]

Just use #1 winter diesel instead of using sorcery , potions and elixirs in an attempt to reduce fuel filter waxing with the #2 summer diesel .

#1 fuel doesn't gel as easily because it lacks the lubricating additives that #2 has. #1 fuel generates less HP than #2.

No witchcraft involved in a product that adds .04 cents per gallon to the cost of #2 fuel and solves the gel problem.

What's the cost difference between #1 and #2 fuel?

 

[ovrszd]

Very respectfully NO, NO, NO ! You do not want to add more then suggested by the maker of the anti-gel. Learned that the hard way when I "glugged, glugged, glugged" in some on one of my tractors years ago. What it basically did was turn the diesel into something closer to gasoline and the tractor barely would start and most of the time could not be kept running. I strongly suggest to NOT TO OVER GLUG the anti-gel.

Wow, you must have seriously over treated. PS jugs have an ounce gauge on the side of the jug. If I need 15oz, I glug glug using the gauge and call it good. It's very possible that I added 16oz. But I didn't add 20oz.

 

[W8BYA]

Wow, you must have seriously over treated. PS jugs have an ounce gauge on the side of the jug. If I need 15oz, I glug glug using the gauge and call it good. It's very possible that I added 16oz. But I didn't add 20oz.

Yes I did. I wish I knew how much I added but being ignorant about the effects of the additive if used in excess I just poured what I had left over from a several year old container. NOT the way to do it. I would guess I added 4x-5x the suggested amount but that is only a WAG. When I drained the tank the "diesel" was very thin, almost like gasoline and it did not even smell like diesel anymore. Again, do not add more then you should is my advice.

 

[buickanddeere]

#1 fuel doesn't gel as easily because it lacks the lubricating additives that #2 has. #1 fuel generates less HP than #2.

No witchcraft involved in a product that adds .04 cents per gallon to the cost of #2 fuel and solves the gel problem.

What's the cost difference between #1 and #2 fuel?

. No cost difference here , hey just sell winter diesel instead of summer diesel .
Who is burning 1000’s of gallons of diesel where any “saving” could amount to more than the cost of extra fuel filters and down time .
The lubrication difference between #1 and #2 are nil .

 

[CobyRupert]

Yes I did. I wish I knew how much I added but being ignorant about the effects of the additive if used in excess I just poured what I had left over from a several year old container. NOT the way to do it. I would guess I added 4x-5x the suggested amount but that is only a WAG. When I drained the tank the "diesel" was very thin, almost like gasoline and it did not even smell like diesel anymore. Again, do not add more then you should is my advice.

Was it "treatment" ("white bottle") or "emergency treatment" (red bottle "911") that you added? I realize it could of been a different brand, different colored bottles, but you get what I'm asking?

 

[bruceha2000]

Fuel in home heating systems is subject to gel same as in a vehicle. I'd say if your home heating fuel works without additive your tractor probably would too. But I wouldn't chance it.

45 years ago I rented a house heated with fuel oil. It gelled. Not pretty.......

Makes a BIG difference if the home heating fuel oil tank is in the basement or outside! Unlikely need additives in an indoor tank.

Just use #1 winter diesel instead of using sorcery , potions and elixirs in an attempt to reduce fuel filter waxing with the #2 summer diesel .

How do you know if the off road diesel in the pump at the station is #1 or #2?

 

[LouNY]

This is from my pickups owners manual, FCA's definition of fuel types;
we will see if it's legible.

 

[buickanddeere]

Makes a BIG difference if the home heating fuel oil tank is in the basement or outside! Unlikely need additives in an indoor tank.


How do you know if the off road diesel in the pump at the station is #1 or #2?

Because the refineries ship #1 diesel in the fall, winter and early spring

 

[coobie]

2018 Kioti owners' manual is very clear: Do not use fuel additives.

WOW,now that is funny.How about fuel gelling issues in colder climates??

 

[check]

Seasonal fuel refining:

[video]http://www.canadianfuels.ca/Blog/November-2015/How-refineries-make-fuels-right-for-winter-driving/[/video]

Great link, Egon - explains a lot! (Like why I never have to add anything to my diesel in my tractor to keep it from gelling or what not in the Winter up near Algonquin Park.).