gemini5362
Veteran Member
Wow this has me confused and I have been working with electricity for almost 40 years now.
1. dont worry about the plug being 50 amps and someone putting a 50 amp device on it. If you have the money and want to do it the proper way then you can run the right size wire and a 50 amp breaker. If you want to be cheaper then run 10 gauge wire and a 30 amp 220 breaker. As long as the breaker is sized correctly for the wire it will be safe.
You really really need that ground wire. I did not notice anyone mentioning safety as the reason for it. If something were to short to the case, such as a winding in the transformer and you touch the case at the same time you touch something that has a good ground ( pipes, another piece of equipment that is only 110 volt but has a ground wire going to its case etc) you are going to complete the circuit between your welding case and ground. If that circuit goes across your heart you are most likely going to die. That is the main reason you have a ground cable is for SAFETY.
I am under the impression that most home wireing is actually 180 out of phase. I am not 100 per cent sure of that. I do know that if you want three phase wireing the electric company has to run leads from the nearest three phase power they have available.
To the original poster. There are some facts in these posts you really need to be aware of. 1. A lot of cities, counties and I believe some states will not let DIY people run electric power because of the danger involved if it is not done right. Not only to the original user but to others ( I. E. If your house catches on fire and burns up the neighborhood. ) 2. A lot of insurance companies have a fit if they find out that you have run your own house wiring. ( IE such as cancel your insurance.) If you have a lot of electrical experience and you dont have legal restrictions against it then go ahead and run your own cable just make sure whatever cable you use is 2 conductors and a ground. The ground can be a bare copper wire with no problem.
The last thing I want to mention is that you probably dont want to use an ohm meter in a HOT electrical panel if you go across energized power lines with it something is going to melt more than likely the meter and probably the leads you are holding. I would recomment a VOM (Volt Ohm Meter) that has a setting for measureing volts.
1. dont worry about the plug being 50 amps and someone putting a 50 amp device on it. If you have the money and want to do it the proper way then you can run the right size wire and a 50 amp breaker. If you want to be cheaper then run 10 gauge wire and a 30 amp 220 breaker. As long as the breaker is sized correctly for the wire it will be safe.
You really really need that ground wire. I did not notice anyone mentioning safety as the reason for it. If something were to short to the case, such as a winding in the transformer and you touch the case at the same time you touch something that has a good ground ( pipes, another piece of equipment that is only 110 volt but has a ground wire going to its case etc) you are going to complete the circuit between your welding case and ground. If that circuit goes across your heart you are most likely going to die. That is the main reason you have a ground cable is for SAFETY.
I am under the impression that most home wireing is actually 180 out of phase. I am not 100 per cent sure of that. I do know that if you want three phase wireing the electric company has to run leads from the nearest three phase power they have available.
To the original poster. There are some facts in these posts you really need to be aware of. 1. A lot of cities, counties and I believe some states will not let DIY people run electric power because of the danger involved if it is not done right. Not only to the original user but to others ( I. E. If your house catches on fire and burns up the neighborhood. ) 2. A lot of insurance companies have a fit if they find out that you have run your own house wiring. ( IE such as cancel your insurance.) If you have a lot of electrical experience and you dont have legal restrictions against it then go ahead and run your own cable just make sure whatever cable you use is 2 conductors and a ground. The ground can be a bare copper wire with no problem.
The last thing I want to mention is that you probably dont want to use an ohm meter in a HOT electrical panel if you go across energized power lines with it something is going to melt more than likely the meter and probably the leads you are holding. I would recomment a VOM (Volt Ohm Meter) that has a setting for measureing volts.