Rotary Cutter Woods MD 172 rotary cutter

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gordon

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What is a good price for a Woods MD 172 rotary cutter. It's last years model. Not with the fancy rounded end like the 720 Brushbull has.

Anyone that has one please offer suggestions on how well they hold up? Also how does it compare to other medium duty cutters?

Thanks in advance for any help
Gordon

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Gordon,

Can't help you with the MD172 but a friend stopped by the local JD dealer, who sells both JD and Woods, and got prices for a 720 Brushbull and JD MX6. He was quoted $2060 for the Woods and $2200 for the JD. Not sure if the safety chains were included in those prices. I'm curious to know what was the price quote for the MD172? Also, is the stump jumper standard or optional equipment on the MD172?

Russ
 
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The price that I was given was $1800.00 for a Woods MD172 with safety chains and stumpjumper. Just trying to get if I'm in the ballpark of a good price or not. It's time to upgrade my cutter. I do alot of cutting in the woods and for other people so I need a medium to heavy duty cutter. Nothing against the lightduty but the metal dents up to easy.

Any other ideas out there on price for a medium duty cutter in the six to seven foot range??

Thanks in advance
Gordon

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Gordon

I price a Woods Brushbull a month ago. A Brushbull 72 (standard duty) was $1000 with slip clutch. A Brushbull 720 (medium duty) with slip clutch $1900. My Woods dealer told me that Woods beefed up the new series and added stronger gear boxes. He also said there pricing is equal or less than that of last years model. The Bushbull 720 looks like a really nice cutter and can handle a lot of abuse.
My Woods dealer also told me the rounded tail make for a really nice cut and less clumping or bunching of the cut material. The Brushbull 720 has full length replacable side skids.

Derek
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Derek thanks for the info. I'm still shopping so any info much appreciated. Have not made up my mind totally as to model or brand. Just know it has to be at least a medium duty cutter.

Thanks
Gordon

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I can confirm what Derek has said. I bought the 5' model 600 Brushbull as I do a lot of brushcutting in the woods. I paid $1550 for it + extra for the chains (forget how much) and I love it. I looked at the lighter duty ones (MD160) but the new models have several added benefits so I paid the extra bucks and am glad I did. I like the shape of the thing - water won't sit on it and rust out the top. I like the heavier gear box, and I like the way the blades are mounted / come off, and I like the heavier steel. I bought the 5' model 'cause it actually is narrower than my rear tires - so if the tractor goes between the trees - then I know the cutter will follow. If I had a 6 footer it'd be just my luck to get stuck in the trees in such a manner that I couldn't go forward or back without cutting down a tree 6 inches from the tractor./w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif
mike
 
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Does anybody have knowledge about a "Dale Phillips" brand brush hog???? On a seperate post there was a comment that this was the toughest of the tough. However, cannot find a local dealer (Colorado) that has ever heard of them.
 
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The flat top is something they sould have done long ago. Your right it's a great idea. They have new gear boxes as well on the new units?

I had a B20 as a loaner while my tractor was getting fixed and I was working a ditch line. Well got up on one ditch bank alittle to far and the loader arm was hard against a 12 dia tree. Couldn't work myself out with the hoe so I had to drop the tree. Then I cut the stump off short to get the loader arm to clear. So much for that tree.

Gordon

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New gear boxes on the brushbulls are heavier by a bit. I don't remember by how much. There wasn't any one thing that was changed so much that it caused me to make my decision on that item. The gear boxes were a little heavier, the steel was a little heavier, the blades come off with a 1/2" drive socket, the top was made for water to run off ------ just several little improvements that put together made it the better deal for me. And a correction - it wasn't an MD model I was looking at with the brushbull 600 (as I said in the previous post) it was a model 60 brushbull - the light duty brushbull.

I have enuff trees that losing one is not what concerns me. What concerns me is having to cut my way out of trouble with a chainsaw too !@#$% close to the tractor or to me to be comfortable. It would just be my luck to have the tree be heavy on the tractor side and fall right across the hood.
mfk
 
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Gordon,

I have the MD 160 with stump jumper, slip clutch and chain guards on my 2910. I like it very much. Put about 50 hours of cutting on it last fall, mostly in very heavy, woody, multi-stemmed brush. Also lots of 10 foot high reed grass and cattails.

The litany of damage I did to my tractor in my brush cutting would fill a whole thread: just about every pin ripped out, FEL ripped off more than once, 3ph pins ripped out, draw bar pulled off, floor panels crushed upwards by logs, radiator grills speared by sharp sticks, flat tire, gas pedal wedged in forward and reverse by brush, etc., etc.

But the MD 160 survived and cut through it all with no damage. Yes, it is dented in the back where I constantly backed into trees, and it has one outward bulge in a side panel from a ferocious tussle with a steel fence post. (I don't think a light duty side panel would have survived.) But clearly the cutter was able to take significantly more abuse than the tractor could. Nothing broke on the cutter except the top link pin, which got pulled out and lost, like every other pin and clip.

I found that if I could drive over a woody thing the MD160 would cut it. Sometiimes I would drive over a multistemmed thing (say, 15 stems, each in in the 1" to 1 1/2" diameter range), and the tractor might be lifted 25 degrees off its front wheels, pointed skyward. I could keep powering forward until my raised cutter was over the bent stems, and would then lower the cutter on top of the bent over stems. (In these situations, I wished for a heavier tractor.) It might take several passes, but the cutter would cut down the whole clump. I really would recommend skid plate armor for this type of cutting, but fortunately I didnt rip off any of my hoses. I did this scores of times, maybe 100. I could not back over these clumps and I found that chain sawing them was much too time consuming. Also the stumps rot away faster when they are shattered than when they are saw cut.

This is the only cutter I have ever had so I dont have any personal experience with others. But I am very glad I got the medium duty, the slip clutch and the chain guards.

I have seen the newer Brush Bull, and the humped back to shed water does make sense, though I wouldnt pay a lot of money for the feature. I have no idea what the rounded back is supposed to do, except to stylistically match the Bush Hog, Landpride and other cutters that have gone to the round back. If you use it in the woods, it will inevitably end up all dented anyway.

I paid 20% off list, whatever that was. Use it with my Freedom Hitches, of course. Can't imagine struggling with 700 lbs. on a 3ph.

Finally, the Woods MD gets stuck in the mud just great. Had it on my tractor both times I got stuck and had to get towed out. Gets stuck particularly well when you go though the ice cutting cattails, and there is not only mud under the ice but a nice big boulder right under the cutter skirts.

Maybe you can get a good price deal on the older MD's now that they are being replaced.

Glenn
 
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Question on all rear cutters with "newer humped top". Is this hump also a rise in area above the cutter blades? I have not seen but the flat top versions and wondered if it is an effort to afford more air flow and better pickup while cutting? I could understand if the top was double plated and only designed to run water off, but more air flow wold also be nice. The design might be an attemp to copy the high air flow side discharged version?

"What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered."
Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882)
 
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Glenn, sounds like you put that mower and tractor thru some real tough stuff. I thought I was hard on equipment but I think you have me beat. Thanks for the heads up on the mower. Sounds like it would be money well spent.

Thats why my L-3750 looked like a tank ready for battle. It spent alot of it's hours serving me well in the woods. I had a bellypan on that tractor, brushbars and expanded metal over the windows of the cab. Bad news is the new tractor has no cab so I've got to start from scrach to get her ready for the woods.

But I'm hoping to do less woods work than I did in the past time will tell on that one. That is why I went with no cab for the visibility factor.

You never did fill us in on the tractor stuck deal, inquiring minds want to know!!!!!/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Gordon

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Gordon,

I'm curious to know how your search for a rotary cutter is going. I recently picked up some brochures for a Bush Hog 285 ( $1700 w/chains) and the Woods 600 ($1650 w/chains), both being medium duty 5' cutters. According to the spec sheets, both units appear to be very similiar except when it comes to weight. The Bush Hog lists at 765 lbs and the Woods weighs in at 1039 lbs. Would the difference in weight be a big factor to consider when purchasing a cutter.

Russ
 
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certainly don't mean to cut in here - but if I may --- I have the woods 600 on my TC45 and it is definitely heavy. I'm a little light in the front when I have the cutter on. Even when the FEL is on I still feel a little light up front - the front tires tend to skid a bit in turns. I need to get some additional weights to hang on the front. That's one of your weight considerations on a cutter I think. The specs on the 3 pt say it will lift 2300 lbs and maybe it will - but I bet it's REALLY light in front if you do. One of the things that sold me on the woods was the bolt that holds the blades on - it's about a 5/8 bolt that holds the really large pin that holds the blades - no exposed threads to rust up & no really large bolt that needs a 1" drive socket. All things considered I decided to deal with the extra weight 'cause I liked the rest of it better than any other cutter I looked at. So far I've been real happy - 'cept when I hit suppin' that makes the cutter go "BANG" ...then I go !@#$&!@#$!!!!
mike
 
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Mike,

By all means cut in. After reading your post, I thought about what you said concerning your problem with the front end being light which brings up another question for all the guys who have put in alot of time in front of a rotary cutter. Given that the brochures mention cutting depths from 2-10 inches, I take it that there are occasions when the cutter will not be riding on the ground. I understand that a 1000lb cutter in the fully raised position will make a front end light but if the cutter is riding say 3-4 inches above grade, will this also translate into a light front end. Given that the Woods 600 is 200+ lbs heavier than the Bush Hog 285, this could factor into the decision.

Russ
 
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I have not made a decision as of yet on a cutter. It takes me awhile to make a decision on any implement. It also helps to drive the price down as well. Works sometimes.

Weight is a factor with anything and a light front end is no fun. But the heavier cutter hopefully is built stronger as well so you get what you pay for. Different tractors will react different, with the same cutter on the back so some of it I guess is trial and error. Talking with the dealer and with other owners on this board brings alot of information on what works and what doesn't.

Gordon

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mikim,
How old is your Woods 600? I thought that Wood's had quite using the big pin with the small bolt. I have an older Wood's M5 with that bolt arrangement also. It is the best blade attachment method that I have seen. All the companies should do it that way, then the blades would be changed when need, instead of when a 3/4" impact was available
.

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I have the Dale Phillips landscape rake and I'll probably buy their rotary mower. It's heavy duty as any I've seen and costs $1150-1250 depending on slip clutch or shear pin. The company is in Alabama and not on the web. For info I'd contact Bill's Tractor in San Antonio at www/billstractor.com.

DaveH
 
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I bought the 600 the end of April and have run it maybe 20 hours ... my country home is 2.5 hours from where I earn my living and and have my main shelter from wind & rain. yeah - I'm another "windshield rancher" for now. Had to follow the job market but kept the home place. (country=home city=house) I have as yet to remove those blades - but am hoping the setup they have works as good as it looks even after a coupla years. The old mower I sold as part of the 8n sale (Servis I think?)will need a torch to remove those blades.
mike
 
 

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