Work Shop 220v Receptacle?

[MossRoad]

Settle down, fellers /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

The explanation of the welder wiring has been answered and the question of what meets code VS what would a person do in real life is a valid one.

While it is apparently legal and up to code to do something, many people here would opt for something a little beefier. Nothing wrong with that. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[Inspector507]

No I would not...........but a range is not a welder, and thats what we're discussing here. Thats why I quit responding to people even when they're getting B$ advice. I've already said it is code compliant for a welder and if you feel you want to wire yours a different way......go for it. I wired mine in compliance with the code and with safety in mind. Now could I be "safer" by using a larger wire?? No safer, but emptier pockets.

 

[Deerlope]

We should all try to remember what the orignal post was here. our comments are supposed to help the orignal poster not get into a bashing war. I am also guilty.

 

[Wood_Butcher_Dav]

I've have to chime in also. The current capacity of wires varies greatly with the type of wire used (stranded or solid), insulation type, number of conductors bundled together, length, and ambient temperatures. the list I have (from Belden) shows Single conductor 10ga from 40 (Neoprene) to 90 (200C Silicone) amps and 2-3 conductors are rated from 40 to 60 amps.

Dave

 

[TWINKLE_TOES]

Thanks for the response 507, I had no intention of annoying you. Your presence here and on CBN is highly valued. My question was intended to get your clear acknowledgement of the unacceptability of reduced wire gauge on a household range connector. I felt PineRidge was short changed in his post about "accident waiting for a place to happen". The reality of the situation is: the most popular and least expensive 50Amp 220 volt connector on the market today is the household range connector. Both plug and receptacle are a fraction of the NEMA equivalents. It should be no surprise that it finds its way into many applications around a normal shop. This would include welding machines, planners, powder coat ovens, compressors and even ranges. It is also not uncommon for additions to a shop to occur over time. To address the suitability of reduced wire size for the welding machine application without addressing the interface connection and it's variability over time is what PineRidge properly identified as an accident waiting for a place to happen. The reality of this situation goes well beyond what an electrical compliance inspector is required to do. These additions often occur without permit or inspection.

If you are making life/death decisions based on information found on an internet discussion board, you need professional help and not necessarily electrical.

 

[Junkman]

Twinkle Toes said:
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Would you approve an installation using a 50Amp breaker and #10 wire, connected to a 50 Amp range outlet? I seriously doubt it. )</font>

I see that you have added some additional words to the original post. You added </font><font color="blue" class="small">( I seriously doubt it.)</font> This changes the intent of the post from the way it was first worded... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[TWINKLE_TOES]

Would one of the moderators please confirm that no edits were made to my original post.

 

[Muhammad]

No, it doesn't appear to have been edited.

 

[CTyler]

Even though your later post put a softer tone on things. The post in question was one of a trolling nature.

 

[Junkman]

My appologies..... must have been a senior moment........