Wow! So much to learn.

[rubicon79]

Well it was actually $23,500 with taxes a hay spear and loaded tires but my tax rate is only 2.5%.

It handles a 5 ft bush hog great even through grass and weeds over 4 ft tall. I use a John Deere MX5 bush hog which is a heavy unit at around 900 lbs.

 

[emcvay]

I think your dealer is doing you right in steering you towards the 4035 or 5010. You will greatly benefit from the extra size and power.

Speaking of baling, I wouldn't attempt to run any sort of a baler behind the 3616, the 4035 would be able to run a small square, but the 5010 could definitely run a small square and possibly a round baler.

If I were you I'd still be looking at the 4035. I wouldn't be afraid of TYM, but the Mistubishi is definitely higher quality.

How much is a 5035? What type of transmission are you looking at?

Had another chat with him and it appears he's doing something not unsimilar to me in that he farms his 220 acres east of me on the weekends. He's familiar with the hills I have to work on as his property is the same (actually worse -- his joke was the only level thing on his land was his coffee).

The gear type transmission on the 5010 doesn't sound bad to me after the conversation we had. He said that while the 50hp tractor has plenty of power to run an HST type tranny it isn't the way to go if running a baler (something I may want to do some day)...he said the baler beats them to peaces.

Bottom line appears to be that the 5010 has both the size and power I'd probably want in the future, the 4035 has the size but less power and would be ok in a shuttle shift in the future and the 3616 may not suffice.

His philosophy is that he'd rather I bought what I needed and not something I had to replace in 5 years because it couldn't handle the job.

Is he right? I don't know but he sounded pretty convincing at this point. he's also told me that I can get the longer financing deal and that the 5010 comes with the cash discount when financing so $19,999.99 with loader at 4.25% out to as much as 84 months -- add a down-payment and some implements and the price is doable for me.

And if the TYM/Mahindra is still a good rig then perhaps the big honking monster of a tractor (when compared to a 3616 anyway) is not such a bad idea

 

[emcvay]

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Would you take your tractor down this??

I think this is one of the steepest grades on my property and my Jeep is in 4low

 

[emcvay]

Well it was actually $23,500 with taxes a hay spear and loaded tires but my tax rate is only 2.5%.

It handles a 5 ft bush hog great even through grass and weeds over 4 ft tall. I use a John Deere MX5 bush hog which is a heavy unit at around 900 lbs.

Good to know....I'm fighting back and forth on this but starting to lean to the bigger heavier rig because of a few factors:

1. Weekend use -- this tractor will be used primarily on weekends (more then likely all day Saturday) and it would be nice to get as much done in that one day as possible - and for what my money can buy.
2. Sloping land -- need the most stability possible so wider, heavier might be better.
3. Must be able to skid logs -- I think the 3616 will do that fine actually.
4. Need to run a good sized brush hog
5. Need to turn ~5acres into meadow by removing small trees, stumps, slash piles, rocks etc (3616 should be that really -- at least I think so).

6. May (that is MAY) want to run baler and other similar implements in the future (here is where the big tractor makes a difference).
7. Treacherous road needs to be worked over and kept safe to drive -- big heavy tractor is probably best here.

That's just my thoughts right now anyway.

Mahindra 3616 = $18,600 for shuttle shift
Mahindra 4035 = $21,000 for Shuttle Shift
Mahindra 5010 = $20,000 for gear shift

Seems for the price the 5010 is likely the best option and at 10% down I'm financing $19,584 (approx after tax amount) which would run me $270/mo for 84 months and cost me $3100 in interest if I let the loan play out (we always try to avoid that and try to pay off early on all our bills).

That's really not bad but doesn't include any implements which would crank up that price fast but I think I can probably get by with a mower and box blade and rent anything else....and maybe I can get some good used ones.

I can afford a little more for the implements but want to keep my costs and monthly outlay as low as possible......

And then I'll have to get a diesel tank set up for refueling too...and build a pole barn....and....lol what am I getting myself into????

 

[rubicon79]

I would drive up or down that hill but not sideways!!

If a baler is something you might run then the 3616 isn't big enough. For me to buy a tractor big enough to pull a baler up and down my land it would be cheaper to just buy the hay lol. With the price of hay around here there is no money savings in baling your own hay.

 

[emcvay]

I would drive up or down that hill but not sideways!!

If a baler is something you might run then the 3616 isn't big enough. For me to buy a tractor big enough to pull a baler up and down my land it would be cheaper to just buy the hay lol. With the price of hay around here there is no money savings in baling your own hay.

Excellent point -- buying the baler would take years to pay off, even used, in terms of the amount of hay baled.

On the other hand the tractor is not much difference in price....

 

[emcvay]

The wife has agreed to go look at Mahindra's tomorrow She's the financial boss so I have to have her approval and though she agreed to buy one it just helps to have her actually see them too.

Needless to say I'm excited.

As a side note, I have Direct to Wife Deposit I've learned that she's better at keeping me from spending my earnings then I am

 

[Martian]

You have a good dealer. You want to future proof yourself. When I bought my 5410, I planned on baling about 60 acres (mostly neighbors and friends) moved down to just my property and now don't do it at all. Some might do just the opposite and have to upgrade multiple times costing them thousands more than just getting the right machine the first time.

Be sure to test the difference in the shuttle vs gear shift. Gear you have to be at a complete stop, shuttle you can shift-on-the-go.

 

[emcvay]

I'm starting to think that too

 

[emcvay]

$24,500 for the 5010 4x4 with loader and canopy, 6' mower and 6' box blade.

I test drove the 5010 and understand now the difference between 3616 and the 5010.....ah hahahaa the 3616 looks like a toy in comparison!!! I hadn't realized AT ALL what the difference was until seeing them side by side.

Also the 5010 comes with remote, has tons more room and is clearly much beefier/bigger etc....just simply a different class of tractor all together.

The salesman (Buck in Benton City) was very nice and showed me a ton of things while discussing my needs, land, road, ice etc etc etc. Seemed like a very knowledgeable guy as well as a good guy. I have no doubt that he means what he says (specially the part about wanting to make sure you get the right tractor so he doesn't have to advertise because you'll do it for him ).

Pretty sure we'll buy the 5010 from him, now just have to work out the final details (read pry the $$$ out of the wifes fingers *chuckle*)....actually, the Mrs. said I could get one this summer just the other day...but she's having trouble excepting that there really isn't any difference between now and August in terms of $$$.

But then some people don't know this statement "if you sit on the fence the only thing you'll be sure to get is slivers in your butt".

Cheers
Erik