XC drag build

ArlyA · Nov 26, 2021

We are receiving snow here but nothing serious and day time hights remain close to, or above freezing. Nonetheless, we are moving our roller to the trail head today in hopes that lake snow will start up.

Last year we built this roller and here its build was posted.

Stomper · Nov 30, 2021

ArlyA said:
Thanks! Nice to have our neighbors to the north posting. Feel free to post pics of your setup. Have you ever seen or used a Ginzu or a G2?

My next build will be one like this. Its small, lightweight for the average snowmobile and looks like a simple easy design that does a pretty decent job. Im hoping to find some time this year to build it.

https://happytrailspersonalgroomers.com/

airbiscuit · Nov 30, 2021

airbiscuit · Nov 30, 2021

Stomper said:
My next build will be one like this. Its small, lightweight for the average snowmobile and looks like a simple easy design that does a pretty decent job. Im hoping to find some time this year to build it.

https://happytrailspersonalgroomers.com/

We look forward to pics of the build.

Stomper · Dec 1, 2021

airbiscuit said:

thats the one

ArlyA · Dec 1, 2021

Stomper said:
My next build will be one like this. Its small, lightweight for the average snowmobile and looks like a simple easy design that does a pretty decent job. Im hoping to find some time this year to build it.

https://happytrailspersonalgroomers.com/

Concerning machines tow capacity. We used every work sled built from Polaris and BRP over the years. Arctic Cat has quit building their version. Most machines we used were SWT Skandic's. At the same time, we started to try atv's equipped with pods so we did do side-by-side comparisons. Our 900cc SWT could pull about 2/3rds what our 700cc Grizzly could. I left that trail system since but they have no sleds there and have no plans to ever buy them again. You just can't tow much with them. This is why we personally own a atv with pods. Ours is a Polaris 6x6 boss version.

ArlyA · Dec 1, 2021

airbiscuit said:
We look forward to pics of the build.

This was built for sled trails but all manufacturers will tell you "it works for XC trails as well". It has many, many things poorly designed.

airbiscuit · Dec 1, 2021

ArlyA, you. Have good experience with building and using XC groomers. What do you think are important features? Who has a good design for a lighter weight groomer?

I always thought the scarifiers were as important as the pan.

ArlyA · Dec 1, 2021

airbiscuit said:
ArlyA, you. Have good experience with building and using XC groomers. What do you think are important features? Who has a good design for a lighter weight groomer?

I always thought the scarifiers were as important as the pan.

I just got home after 11 hours working on the Groomzila project. You ask a good qestion but the answer is lengthy but for now, I'll try give you a short answer.

A good machine needs to be adjustable for the conditions at hand. These photos is the YTS Ginzu which has adjustable teeth, but they don't do all that well on hard-pack. I'd also not tow in with more than 3-4" of fresh snow but it goes leave great tracks and comb. These photos show different versions of the same machine. More later but I hope the Groomzila will overcome the shortcomings of the Ginzu.

Stomper · Dec 2, 2021

ArlyA said:
This was built for sled trails but all manufacturers will tell you "it works for XC trails as well". It has many, many things poorly designed.

Can you please elaborate on this. Isn't the whole purpose to get a flat level area for either snowmobile trails and ski trails. This sure looks like it does that prety well. I am interested to hear where it fails to do that and also where the design has failed and can be improved on before I start building.