Olympus
Platinum Member
Don't recall. Just told the tire shop to fill each tire 75% full.
XJ2025 Owners?
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antlers125
Silver Member
15 gal. Per tire. With Rimguard it adds 160lbs. per tire.
jacob59
Bronze Member
Thanks!
I appreciate any & all input & love to analyze all views, but for me it's not really a matter of caring for my equipment. It's about what is the most practical & cost effective for the long haul after completing a thorough analysis of viewpoints, facts, beliefs, & finally, real world experiences regarding whatever subject is in question.---
I ran straight water in a Kubota I owned for 10 years. While 10 years isn't a particularly long time, there were no signs of rust noticeable on the exterior of the rims other than light surface rust from paint wearing off. When I sold that particular tractor, the buyer had to haul it a long distance so we drained the water from the tires. The water did not look rusty. Interior of the rim? Dunno. I've had people tell me they ran straight water in their tires for 35 years & it did not rust out their wheels. I've read many threads where the old timers chimed in saying the same thing regarding straight water. Based on my actual real world experience & disregarding anything I've read or been told, I know I will get at least 10 years of service out of my straight water filled rims &probably more. ---
What does a set of rims cost for this machine versus the price of Rimguard? I'm thinking I could actually replace the rims cheaper. If I had a serious flat & lost my rimguard, I'd have to replace it= more $$. Being in Florida, freezing isn't an issue for me. Rimguard is obviously a good product, has more weight per equivalent volume of water, but has only been on the market for about 15 years & was not available when I owned my Kubotas. I'm sure that you are correct that water will cause rust over time. The question for me is what does 'over time' really mean ? I've heard/read all the stories on calcium chloride, I could definitely see salt water causing premature corrosion. I'm going to start with a homemade ballast box setup first & then go from there based on my results.---
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Estimating my rim life with straight water filled rims ( 10 years minimum ), having the ability & convenience to drain & refill at no cost (flats, etc.), & realizing that I can purchase a set of rims for about the same price as a one time shot of rimguard, I come down on the side of straight water. My viewpoint comes from owning/operating multiple types of rubber tired equipment with my business for 20 years & running other peoples equipment for 14-15 years prior to that.
Olympus
Platinum Member
Different strokes for different folks. My way of thinking, if I just dropped $13-$14k on a brand new tractor, another $100 to use the more appropriate fluid to fill the tires doesn't seem like much of a cost at all. To me, that's like buying a brand new car and telling the dealer to remove the spare tire to save $100 because I've never had a flat before so I won't need the spare. I could probably buy a brand new tire for the same cost as buying the spare, right? Or buying a new car and skimping on the floor mats.
jacob59
Bronze Member
For 3 bucks a gallon you can get Rimgaurd "beatjuice". You get a heavier liquid 10lbs per gal vs 8lbs. Freezing point below -35 deg. and its a natural byproduct and easy on the enviroment. I just had my tires filled with it. Its worth the cost.
Buy something cheap and you got something cheap.
just my 2 cents.
Jack
Buy something cheap and you got something cheap.
just my 2 cents.
Jack
I get that you like & use rim-guard, that's cool, lots of people do. I certainly don't knock anybody that does because lots of people have varied situations. I post here to tap into the vast knowledge of the thousands of contributors on this site & share in the things I have experience in. The day aint done unless I've learned something new !! Please realize that "the more appropriate fluid to fill the tires" is not based on a static set of facts. I gave you a concise example of another viewpoint based on decades of real world experience running equipment for a living, 10 years of actually running straight water in a set of rear tractor tires with no ill effects, as well as operating in a completely different environment. You gave me back a weird analogy about tires & floor mats. It's cool how much difference there is in the way people process information
I may not even need fluid in my tires although I'm inclined to thinking I do. The R4's aren't too bad on flat sandy soil which is what I have. I have only taken out a handful 4"-5" oaks so far with just a box blade for counterweight. I only had to dig down about 18" & traction wasn't a problem. I have a lot of heavy digging to do so I will start out with some adjustable ballast on the 3pt & go from there.
The $100+ I'll save not using rim-guard will go towards metal & materials for implements & add ons I'll be making. I'm drawing up some plans for a custom tooth bar, forks, boom, & trash rake as well as a 3pt tool bar for cultivation, towing trailers, & other things. I'll eventually post some pics of these things as well as some other stuff I built years ago.
Gotta roll. In the future I'd like to hear what you & other LS 2020,2023,2030 owners are doing with their tractors, what kind of implements you use, modifications made, problems you've encountered & so forth.
jblackthorne
New member
What was the prices on those 60" MMM? I nearly bought a 2025 last weekend until the dealer said the MMM would be another $3000. Seems a bit unreasonable to me.
antlers125
Silver Member
$3000.00 is about right. You might want to consider a rear finish mower. Finish mowers are a lot more universal , so you can find a good used one for around $1500.00 . They are also much easier to hook up. The mid mount is tractor specific & it limits your usage while using the FEL.
