Tires XM27 Tires on a L4610

[evanjohnson]

What size XM27 tires/ wheels will work with an L4610 with loader (I assume I will have to modify the loader frame as previously illustrated on TBN)?

Where does one go about sourcing these critters?

Any idea on a decent price for wheels/ tires?

Thanks,
Evan Johnson in SC

 

[MJB]

Where is Mark Chalkley when you need him?/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif I think he went through this very situation, only with a L4310. Are these tractors the same frame size? A search of the archives will probably provide more information than you care to read./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

 

[BeeBop]

I am at a loss here, you're not going w/the R-4's? Never heard of this tire and wheel set-up? I must do a Google search at once...here goes.

 

[BeeBop]

Ok, I went to Michelin and it appears to be a radial R-4 design tire. Good looking tire but but I bet they are BIG $$.

 

[JimME]

Read up on them and other Michelin tires here:

http://michelinag.com/index.htm

If you want to see what Firestone has check here:

http://www.firestoneag.com/tiredata/ag_section.asp


Jim K.

 

[MChalkley]

Evan - Check out <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.tractorbynet.com/cgi-bin/compact/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=buykubota&Number=1958&Search=true&Forum=All_Forums&Words=michelin%20xm27%20wheels%20OTR&Match=And&Searchpage=0&Limit=50&Old=allposts&Main=1861>this link</A>. For wheels, you can call Tim Long at OTR, 800-215-5549. Hopefully he's still there and will remember which wheels I bought last. I no longer have the L4310 info. The 19.5LR24's will work with the standard rear rims. The 11LR16's are the right match for the ratio, if it's the same as the L4310, but you'll need the right wheels from OTR. There's nothing available in tires that will touch the XM27's, though. They're worth the switch. Ag tire treads with the flotation, durability, and capacity of industrials.

 

[evanjohnson]

Mark-
Thanks for the link and the good advice.

I'll try Tim at OTR tomorrow and let everyone know how I made out.

Thanks Again,
Evan

 

[hayden]

Mark,

Didn't someone try the XM27s on a 4610 and have trouble with the tires hitting the loader frame? The 4610 had the heavier loader with a bigger frame and I think the tires hit it. I seem to recall a rather industrious modification (aka cutting tourch) mod to the loader frame to provide clearance.

Ring a bell?

 

[MChalkley]

Ok, found it. Check out <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.tractorbynet.com/cgi-bin/compact/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=owning&Number=69416&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1>this link</A> and scroll down to richh's comments and pictures.

 

[MarkV]

Mark,

I remember how impressed you were with the performance difference the Michelin tires made on the 4310. Do you recall what kind of investment it was for the tires, custom wheels and any modifications you had to make to the tractor for them? Just a ball park figure.

MarkV

 

[MChalkley]

MarkV - <font color=blue>Do you recall what kind of investment it was for the tires, custom wheels and any modifications you had to make to the tractor for them?</font color=blue>

I remember that it was very painful! /w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif As best I can remember, it was about $900 for the rear tires, $300 for the front tires, $75 for the wheels, and the modifications were free, because I only had to use a grinder to grind a corner off the Bradco 609 backhoe subframe on each side.

 

[JATO_RaT]

Hey Mark, with all the extra traction you get from a radial like the Michelin's, why not go with a smaller tire then the 19's you put on the 4310's rear (why not stock size and eliminate interference). Your EF500 has considerably smaller tires then the rears you had on the 4310 and yet you are getting pretty good traction with those and they are not even radial's. What is the bonus a larger tire gives you besides a larger tire to ground contact area, longer lasting and the ability to roll over obstacles easier? I believe I can now get XM27's in a 16.5 for my front and 17.5 for the rears. I think my 16.5's will be worn out in another year. What size tires does the EF500 use? Are they R4's? Rat...

P.S. I get so much traction with my stock R4's in my soil which is decomposed granite that it is necessary for me to put the tractor in low and bull doze. However, get in the wetter areas and its like I'm on skates.

 

[richh]

Evan, out of town at a show, will get you tnfo on tires when I return. on a 4610 you do have to cut down the loader frame to get the front tires to fit. There's a guy in our town that i can get you in touch with for the tires and you can get a cost.
Rich

 

[MChalkley]

Rat - <font color=blue>with all the extra traction you get from a radial like the Michelin's, why not go with a smaller tire then the 19's you put on the 4310's rear (why not stock size and eliminate interference)</font color=blue>

There's no reason why you couldn't (or shouldn't), as long as the sizes match from a Rolling Circumference standpoint. The XM27 17.5LR24's would give much superior traction to the standard R4's. I used the 19.5's because I'm a nut. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

The EF-500 uses 12.75-18 R4 tires front and rear. Michelin makes an XM27 that would work just fine - I think it would be about 1.4 inches wider that what I'veg got. They would probably rub just a bit on the loader frame when it was fully lowered, and I was making a hard turn, but not enough to cause a problem.

 

[JATO_RaT]

"I used the 19.5's because I'm a nut."


Mark, thats what I thought, I just didn't want to say it although I was thinking it. You are a nut, but here in California, thats a good thing. Rat...

 

[MChalkley]

Rat - I considered trying to make up an excuse to pass off as a reason, but considering where you live, and the "it takes one to know one" maxim, I didn't think you'd buy it. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

 

[EdK]

I was curious about how you go about sizing these XM27s for a certain tractor. I would like to pursue this - understanding that rim substitution may be necessary - but without loader frame mods, tires rubbing, etc. Is this a trial and error approach at best?