XR4040H loader+ pallet fork lift test - would like comments from LS

TSO · May 12, 2015

hitecredneck1 said:
I've been thru the dealer and thru LS (Harvey Brock) with no resolution. The only other option is to sell this piece of ..... and buy a Kubota. I challenge LS again to take this tractor back so I can get a real tractor....

I'm starting to think that you may not really have this LS tractor your complaining about... Starting to sound a bit like a troll. I can't fathom any reason why you wouldn't be able to get resolution with the dealer, or with LS directly.

It's obvious, that if your relief is set at 2200 psi, and should be set higher, to around 2500... Then that would be the obvious fix. If your dealer won't do it, do it yourself.

hitecredneck1 · May 12, 2015

Bought from Haney Equipment Athens Al. PM me an email for pictures and maybe help with the issue.

From: Harvey Brock
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 8:26:47 PM (UTC-06:00) Central Time (US & Canada)
To: xxxx
Subject: RE: ls xr4040h issue

"2250 PSI is the max. so it is near the upper spec already."

Harvey J Brock
Head of Service
LS Tractor USA

TSO · May 12, 2015

hitecredneck1 said:
Bought from Haney Equipment Athens Al. PM me an email for pictures and maybe help with the issue.

Here's the help I can offer:

-Get a gauge to confirm your PSI and test it yourself.
-Read the manual to learn the proper spec.
-Find out how to adjust it and adjust it yourself to the proper spec.
-OR, if you don't want to do it yourself ... Go to the dealer with proof that the relief PSI is set too low, show them this thread so they know that YOU KNOW the loader is under performing, and demand that they adjust it. If that doesn't work, take the same info to your rep. If that doesn't work, find another dealer that can adjust it.

It may be possible that your dealer is unfamiliar with the process of adjusting the relief PSI. None of my local dealers would check or adjust my PSI and said "it was set from the factory and we can't adjust it."

So I followed the steps myself. My Massey loader was only able to lift 2040 lbs on top of my forks when the relief was set just 150 psi below spec ... I went up to spec and gained 350 lbs of lift on top of my forks (forks weigh around 375).

Don't be afraid to take some initiative.

RKJeepXJ · May 12, 2015

I still go back to the fact you can only lift ~1100lbs with your pressure setting at around ~2200psi. Yes that's slightly less than ~2500 which some have mentioned is possible/okay, but 300psi does not equate to over 1000lbs short of what it should be capable of. If the numbers you are quoting are correct, then something else is wrong.

hitecredneck1 · May 12, 2015

I tested the PSI, below is the response from LS. I've taken the issue to the dealer owner and LS.

"If you go and start adjusting pressures on loader pressure and bend your engine frame you will void your warranty. "
Ricky Marks, Service Manager
L S Tractor, USA, LLC
6900 Corporation Parkway
Battleboro, NC 27809

TSO · May 12, 2015

RKJeepXJ said:
I still go back to the fact you can only lift ~1100lbs with your pressure setting at around ~2200psi. Yes that's slightly less than ~2500 which some have mentioned is possible/okay, but 300psi does not equate to over 1000lbs short of what it should be capable of. If the numbers you are quoting are correct, then something else is wrong.

No, his initial test was 31 bags @ 40 lbs each. That equals 1240 lbs not counting the forks and pallet.

If my current tractor gained 350 lbs on top of the forks with just a 150 psi adjustment, then it should seem reasonable that if he's 300 psi under spec, he should gain around 700 lbs. That would put him closer to the 2000 lb spec that the rest of us saw/see with that loader.

TSO · May 12, 2015

hitecredneck1 said:
I tested the PSI, below is the response from LS. I've taken the issue to the dealer owner and LS.

"If you go and start adjusting pressures on loader pressure and bend your engine frame you will void your warranty. "
Ricky Marks, Service Manager
L S Tractor, USA, LLC
6900 Corporation Parkway
Battleboro, NC 27809

Does your manual list the proper PSI?

ozley · May 12, 2015

hitecredneck1 said:
I've been thru the dealer and thru LS (Harvey Brock) with no resolution. The only other option is to sell this piece of ..... and buy a Kubota. I challenge LS again to take this tractor back so I can get a real tractor....

I guess this shouldn't go any further and you'll have your Kubota next week.

hitecredneck1 · May 12, 2015

MAX PSI per LS is 2250 psi, I measured 2200 with a very high quality gage.

Can get ~31 bags off the ground, ~28 higher (too unstable to go much higher)

I not going to void a "5 year warrenty" by upping the pressures. I need the forum's help to put pressure on LS to fix this issue or replace the tractor.

per: LS "If you go and start adjusting pressures on loader pressure and bend your engine frame you will void your warranty. "
Ricky Marks, Service Manager
L S Tractor, USA, LLC
6900 Corporation Parkway
Battleboro, NC 27809