Yanmar just released 3 new models!

[tacticalturnip]

Yes, that is 3. The other 2 needed a baby brother. I replaced the Kubota F2560 mower with the 25S, needed a more rugged mower for the horse turnouts, plus the FEL bucket is like a powered wheelbarrow.

Are you running a mid-mount mower, or a smaller 3 point? The MT125/25S really was the first modern LS I got a good look at, back when it was first introduced. I ended up going with a Deere 1025R that I got a good deal on used, but I was really impressed with the quality of the little LS.

One thing that bothered me at the time though, it's SSQA wasn't standard size. I think the 25S has a proper size, but the LS QA was a little small. I remember a thread where someone replaced it with a NH numbered part.

 

[WM75Guy]

Are you running a mid-mount mower, or a smaller 3 point? The MT125/25S really was the first modern LS I got a good look at, back when it was first introduced. I ended up going with a Deere 1025R that I got a good deal on used, but I was really impressed with the quality of the little LS.

One thing that bothered me at the time though, it's SSQA wasn't standard size. I think the 25S has a proper size, but the LS QA was a little small. I remember a thread where someone replaced it with a NH numbered part.

Mid mount. It came as a package, tractor, FEL, and mid-mount mower for $14,900.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Mid mount. It came as a package, tractor, FEL, and mid-mount mower for $14,900.

That seems like a pretty good deal; I looked to see what they were going for around here and they've either got a cab or a backhoe, so the prices were considerably higher.

 

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I just want a quality product that is going to last. It's been my experience that globally sourced products are often inferior and I try to avoid them on big expensive purchases. To be fair I have zero experience with tractors so I'm just extrapolating.

I do think it's rather telling that most of these big name manufactures are still making their big AG tractors in their home countries.

My stance on this matter is based on past experience, not attitude, feelings or racial bias etc.

You have no experience w tractors but your bias extends to them as well? Currently, that seems as an attitude carry over if w no experience to base this on.
What else could it be but an attitude?
There are tractors made all over the world that are 30 years old.

 

[In.the.Piñons]

You have no experience w tractors but your bias extends to them as well? Currently, that seems as an attitude carry over if w no experience to base this on.
What else could it be but an attitude?
There are tractors made all over the world that are 30 years old.

I was interested in a TYM before the dealer told me about the problems they were having with the turbo's at elevation. That's not my bias, that's the dealer stating real problems their customers were experiencing. I need a turbo at my elevation at 6,800ft ASL, so that's a deal breaker for me.

I would consider Kioti, but the nearest dealer is 300 miles away. I'm sure there are lots of great globally sourced tractors out there, but given I have no way to transport a utility tractor, I would be paying about $2,000 round trip just to exercise the warranty if something goes wrong. If the dealer was just down the road and the warranty was solid, then I might take the chance to save some money.

There just seems like a lot of misinformation out there about where some of these tractors/engines are made.

 

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I was interested in a TYM before the dealer told me about the problems they were having with the turbo's at elevation. That's not my bias, that's the dealer stating real problems their customers were experiencing. I need a turbo at my elevation at 6,800ft ASL, so that's a deal breaker for me.

I would consider Kioti, but the nearest dealer is 300 miles away. I'm sure there are lots of great globally sourced tractors out there, but given I have no way to transport a utility tractor, I would be paying about $2,000 round trip just to exercise the warranty if something goes wrong. If the dealer was just down the road and the warranty was solid, then I might take the chance to save some money.

There just seems like a lot of misinformation out there about where some of these tractors/engines are made.

Info is readily available and no one is attempting to pull wool over your peepers as you are inferring.
It is not misinformation as much as it is rather standard practices of company outsourcing.
Every company does this as the practicality of reduced cost is not to be ignored.
Ask yourself if an established company would put themselves knowingly in jeopardy with inferior outsourcing.
There is little question in my mind knowing what l know of this business, that dealer proximity is a critical piece and to me, the most critical even over brand. As long as the closest dealer is established with a good reputation, buy from them.
What are your chores for your tractor purchase?
There are several ways to skin the volumetric air efficiency cat for your given da to gain back the about 20% loss of power beyond a turbo.
Also, we pick up warrantee work for free and bring the customers another unit to use if at a critical time such as harvest, grass cutting or snow removal.

 

[In.the.Piñons]

Info is readily available and no one is attempting to pull wool over your peepers as you are inferring.
It is not misinformation as much as it is rather standard practices of company outsourcing.
Every company does this as the practicality of reduced cost is not to be ignored.
Ask yourself if an established company would put themselves knowingly in jeopardy with inferior outsourcing.
There is little question in my mind knowing what l know of this business, that dealer proximity is a critical piece and to me, the most critical even over brand. As long as the closest dealer is established with a good reputation, buy from them.
What are your chores for your tractor purchase?

Once again, I'm not trying to be argumentative. But in this very thread someone said the Yanmar SM475 had a Deutz engine and they were solid units, made in Germany (not true). Same happened when I was looking at a Deutz tractor, the dealer told me some of the parts may be globally sourced, but the engines were German (ambiguous at best).

I read on this forum that Massey Ferguson tractors were made in Japan, so I went to the closest dealer to check out the 4700 series. Turns out it was not made in Japan, but Brazil.

I also read on this forum that Yanmar tractors were made in Japan. That was probably the case when it was written, but now, it's no longer true for some models.

While no one is deliberately trying to lie and mislead. It looks like some posters/dealers info is out of date. If you do the research, the info is out there, but it is buried.

These companies are moving their manufacturing to save money and remain competitive, since just about all the companies are doing the same. In my mind it will impact quality in the short term at least until they get the bugs sorted. Just ask KTM about their made in India parallel twin engine. My made in Austria KTMs have been pretty solid. And yes, that has tarnished KTM's reputation. But in the end it's better to make an inferior product that the average rider can afford, than to make a superior product that no one can afford to purchase. We can thank inflation for that. They still make most of their higher end bikes in Austria.

To be perfectly clear, I'm not saying anything made outside of Europe/Japan/USA is a POS. I'm just saying I like to know what I'm buying and I will factor in country of manufacture into the value proposition. YMMV!

As far as my tractor needs, I started a thread about a month ago here. Spoiler alert, I just bought a low hour Kobuta M5-111. It was way more than I wanted to spend, but in the end, the only close dealers were Kubota or JD, so it was going to be expensive either way.

What class of tractor for maintaining two miles of road at higher elevation?

I have a 200+ acre ranch (6,800ft above sea level) with a few miles of single lane gravel road that needs to be maintained. Under the gravel, the soil is silty clay, and the topography involves some mild grades along with some short steep hills. The main road is mostly well built with culverts...

www.tractorbynet.com

 

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Once again, I'm not trying to be argumentative. But in this very thread someone said the Yanmar SM475 had a Deutz engine and they were solid units, made in Germany (not true). Same happened when I was looking at a Deutz tractor, the dealer told me some of the parts may be globally sourced, but the engines were German (ambiguous at best).

I read on this forum that Massey Ferguson tractors were made in Japan, so I went to the closest dealer to check out the 4700 series. Turns out it was not made in Japan, but Brazil.

I also read on this forum that Yanmar tractors were made in Japan. That was probably the case when it was written, but now, it's no longer true for some models.

While no one is deliberately trying to lie and mislead. It looks like some posters/dealers info is out of date. If you do the research, the info is out there, but it is buried.

These companies are moving their manufacturing to save money and remain competitive, since just about all the companies are doing the same. In my mind it will impact quality in the short term at least until they get the bugs sorted. Just ask KTM about their made in India parallel twin engine. My made in Austria KTMs have been pretty solid. And yes, that has tarnished KTM's reputation. But in the end it's better to make an inferior product that the average rider can afford, than to make a superior product that no one can afford to purchase. We can thank inflation for that. They still make most of their higher end bikes in Austria.

To be perfectly clear, I'm not saying anything made outside of Europe/Japan/USA is a POS. I'm just saying I like to know what I'm buying and I will factor in country of manufacture into the value proposition. YMMV!

As far as my tractor needs, I started a thread about a month ago here. Spoiler alert, I just bought a low hour Kobuta M5-111. It was way more than I wanted to spend, but in the end, the only close dealers were Kubota or JD, so it was going to be expensive either way.

What class of tractor for maintaining two miles of road at higher elevation?

I have a 200+ acre ranch (6,800ft above sea level) with a few miles of single lane gravel road that needs to be maintained. Under the gravel, the soil is silty clay, and the topography involves some mild grades along with some short steep hills. The main road is mostly well built with culverts...

www.tractorbynet.com

That’ll do ya.
Good luck w your unit.

 

[GWagon]

I just want a quality product that is going to last. It's been my experience that globally sourced products are often inferior and I try to avoid them on big expensive purchases. To be fair I have zero experience with tractors so I'm just extrapolating.

I do think it's rather telling that most of these big name manufactures are still making their big AG tractors in their home countries.

My stance on this matter is based on past experience, not attitude, feelings or racial bias etc.

Because you do have "zero experience with tractors" why must you even do a lengthy uninformed post.
The subject was TYM tractors. Which manufacturers many other brands. Are well made, durable, have great warranties, and are reasonably priced.

 

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Because you do have "zero experience with tractors" why must you even do a lengthy uninformed post.
The subject was TYM tractors. Which manufacturers many other brands. Are well made, durable, have great warranties, and are reasonably priced.

This “ inexperienced about tractors “ poster is applying with a broad brush.
First, one cannot compare an engine revving to 7 or 8000 rpm outsourced, to an engine that might see 2600 rpm as a tractor engine would achieve.
Secondly, many here have little opportunity to visit tractor production facilities in other countries but this does not stop them from disparaging said products. If one visited such, one would discover that they rival anything you may see in favored countries. Robotics abound. Efficiency standards are as applicable as any other factory found elsewhere. Spec sheets are as meticulous as one might find anywhere else.
If one could witness the various production facilities, l believe they’d be impressed.
Tractors are built to price points for a reason.
My shuttle Mahindra has what l call Fred Flintstone operational aspects compared to other tractors costing thousands more with the added details and cosmetics. But, this tractor of mine has done yeoman work for the last 11 years dragging in tons and tons of tree stems and moving foot after foot of snow. What it does have are extended weight capabilities, all metal construction, ruggedness and a large bang for the buck. Its dealer is 15 minutes away.
Durability and reliability are about your tractor, how you take care of it and how you operate it.
Every single manufacturer has a lemon or two so cross your fingers and hope yours isn’t. Just about everyone makes a good tractor so anything else is supposition that may or may not apply to yours.
Buy what you can with impunity once your criterial factors are met and may your fortunes abound.