Yanmar YM2220D question to tire and lift capacity

[Lunarius]

Hello,

I'm new in the forum and have just registered here.
I'm from Germany / Dresden and I am 34 years old and my name is René 8)

In September I bought a Yanmar YM2220D tractor with front loader (my first tractor), it has now 1.447 hours and runs perfectly. I would like to use it for work in our forest, especially for pulling and transporting wood.

Now I have a few questions:

1. I have now mounted rice field tires in the back with the size 9.5-24.
My question, is it possible to mount on this rim tires with 11.2-24?
If that does not work, I look for larger tires /rims like 12.4-24, that should work, right?

2. Can someone tell me what the tractor can lift in the rear?
I would like to attach a forestry winch with 380 kg (800 lb) weight, does it work without problems?
Erster Einsatz mit der Forstwinde (Tajfun EGV 45 A) - International Harvester Neuss
Is actually intended for tractors starting from 25 hp and up.

Many Thanks,
René

 

[clemsonfor]

you can put the 11.2 on there as long as they have the same rolling circumference as the narrower tire, that was the 4x4 ratio is not all out of wack.

That 800 pound winch will probably be about the max if it would lift it. I know my finish mower is 700 pounds and it makes it light in the front but it does hang out a bit not sure how far that winch extends out there. But you seriously will be at the max lift for the 3pt, and you will need something in that loader for ballast as well.

And welcome to the club

 

[clemsonfor]

is that 1400 hours or actually 1.4 hours? That tractor in no way only has 1 hour on it as its now 30 years old. And has definitely been refurbished. But it looks good. And that's a different brand of loader than we have seen in the past.

 

[California]

re hours, some countries use decimal where we would use comma. So 1,447 hours in the terms we are familiar with.

 

[clemsonfor]

That's why I asked. I knew that. Still looks great, not even paint off the bucket? Someone still refurbed it.

 

[Lunarius]

Hello clemsonfor,

thanks for the welcome

If I understood correctly, I get on the 9.5-24 rims also 11.2-24 tires on it?
Is there any precise information about the rear lifting force for the YM2220D?

I mean 1,447 hours, sorry

The front loader is manufactured in Poland and makes a very strong impression, it raises about 400 kg (900 lb) with rear weight.

 

[clemsonfor]

We will have to find the similar American model and look up the lift stats jn the shop manual.

For instance I have a ym2000 the same American version is ym240. I have the ym240 original yanmar shop manual. It lists the specs at the rear lift arm eyes at I think 800 pounds. Then I think gives a spec for 2ft away maybe?. We're going to need someone who knows what the equivalent American model is if one so someone can read it and look it up. Is there a ym276 or something like that?

But yes to answer your question the larger tires will go on that rim, there just wider, but due to the 4wd tractor you have to keep the tire rotational circumferences the same to keep the drivetrains from binding up or forcing one of the tires through an incorrect amount of rotations when in 4wd.

 

[winston1]

I can tell you the 240 lift capacity is 1430lbs, 650kg. I assume this would be at the pins. I cannot read Japanese so a little unsure of this, but, I think the manual I have on the "2210" states 750kg which would translate to 1653lbs. The 276 lift capacity is 650kg/1433lbs at the pins, 630kg/1389lbs 24" behind the pins. Interesting the 240 and 276 are real close. This should give you something to ponder.

 

[clemsonfor]

Really it's that much? Maybe it's 2ft back it's 800?

 

[California]

Those numbers sound very optimistic.

I can pull my backhoe in pretty close to the YM240 (YM2000) if I turn the boom to the side. Its manual says it weighs 750 lbs.

I can barely lift it without squealing the overload bypass, and sometimes have to help lift it clear to the top by using its boom. Driving around, bounces will squeal the bypass. I'm clearly carrying maximum weight the YM240 was designed for.

 

[clemsonfor]

I'm gonna go find my ym240 factory device manual in a bit. I am curious now for myself.

Edit: I found my manual it does state 1430lbs lift. But I bet that is at the end of the arms , the vertices ones where they connect to the lower arms. It it's at the lift eyes it would literally be right between the arms and eyes. You put that weight much beyond that and it drops drastically. Like I said my 700 pound finish mower makes the front of my tractor very light and I have 160 pounds or so of ballast on my front bumper.

 

[sd455dan]

Those numbers sound very optimistic.

I can pull my backhoe in pretty close to the YM240 (YM2000) if I turn the boom to the side. Its manual says it weighs 750 lbs.

I can barely lift it without squealing the overload bypass, and sometimes have to help lift it clear to the top by using its boom. Driving around, bounces will squeal the bypass. I'm clearly carrying maximum weight the YM240 was designed for.

I think so to.

FIL has a 2310 and given a 6 foot tandem disc for free.
He gave it to me because his 2310 would not lift it. I doubt it weighs 700 lbs.
He does have a 3 point snow blower and it lifts that just fine.

 

[winston1]

Info out of Yanmar manuals, again, I am not sure about the 2210. Descriptions of numbers are in Japanese. 1st picture out of 240 parts manual, 2nd picture out of 276 service manual, 3rd picture out of 2210 parts manual. I agree the weights seem heavy but for what it's worth this is Yanmars specs, not mine.

 

[careyo63]

"Like I said my 700 pound finish mower makes the front of my tractor very light and I have 160 pounds or so of ballast on my front bumper."

Agree! I'm 611 Lbs. with my chain shielding and I can easily lift it with no problems or strain. I don't have that much front weight about half of your 160 for sure. Somethings wrong with the 2310 if it won't lift 700Lbs. IMO.. I can drive down my Gravel Rd. with it lifted and don't hear anything from my relief valve. Even with my Beast of a BH. it would be very seldom if ever lifted all the way and moving. With either mower attached and traveling I leave the Rear Wheel/Wheels on the ground and just lift the front. Then you hardly know if either one is attached and I can run in 8th. gear easily with no problems what so ever. Wouldn't know they're back there if it wasn't for the sound.

 

[clemsonfor]

Info out of Yanmar manuals, again, I am not sure about the 2210. Descriptions of numbers are in Japanese. 1st picture out of 240 parts manual, 2nd picture out of 276 service manual, 3rd picture out of 2210 parts manual. I agree the weights seem heavy but for what it's worth this is Yanmars specs, not mine.

yea I looked at my Shop manual. Its a Yanmar Printed shop or service manual in English for the YM 240/YM 2000 which is a tad smaller than the tractor discussed but it does confirm what you said Winston. Just seems really high to me. That would be right at the lift arms with the vertical arms in the furthest back or closest to the tractor holes, which means it wont lift as high but the 3pt will have better leverage on the arms.

As for the disk. My disk probably weights 500 or so pounds and I stack over a hundred on top. It feels a whole lot heavier and lifts my front almost off the ground even with the front weight but that's because it hangs so far off the back and gets leverage over the tractor that way.

 

[California]

I wonder if those figures are measured at the ends of the hydraulic arms, rating the lift applied to the vertical shafts. Since many of the Yanmars sold in Japan included the close-mount semi-permanent tiller, their rating might have been measured that way.

I don't doubt those numbers are in the printed literature but I doubt a standardized test (I think measured 24" beyond the end of the lower arms) would match the printed figures.

 

[sd455dan]

"Like I said my 700 pound finish mower makes the front of my tractor very light and I have 160 pounds or so of ballast on my front bumper."

Agree! I'm 611 Lbs. with my chain shielding and I can easily lift it with no problems or strain. I don't have that much front weight about half of your 160 for sure. Somethings wrong with the 2310 if it won't lift 700Lbs. IMO.. I can drive down my Gravel Rd. with it lifted and don't hear anything from my relief valve. Even with my Beast of a BH. it would be very seldom if ever lifted all the way and moving. With either mower attached and traveling I leave the Rear Wheel/Wheels on the ground and just lift the front. Then you hardly know if either one is attached and I can run in 8th. gear easily with no problems what so ever. Wouldn't know they're back there if it wasn't for the sound.

Somethings wrong with the 2310 if it won't lift 700Lbs. IMO..



Well, i will admit I don't know the discs actual weight.

Front end lifting was not the problem (has an Allied FEL) for front axle weight.
Maybe it has more to do with the leverage applied because of the discs length?

As I said the 2310 has no problem with a 3 point snow blower He also successfully uses a seeder and rear blade.

attached is a pic of the disc in question, None of the added weight was on the disc when trying to lift it with the 2310.

Maybe the relief pressure is set to low on the 3 point?

To the OP does the 800lb. forestry winch also lift the front of the attached winched in log with the 3 point when transporting If so it may lift the winch itself OK, but how much extra will be left to lift the additional weight of the log?
Can you trailer the tractor over and mount up the winch and try it with a log- that might be your best option to be sure it will lift the winch.

 

[careyo63]

I agree with Cal. So far back. Those Disk Weights are way back. My top link has a pivot that doesn't start to tighten and lift on how you Adj. it. I never actually lift my Implements. level. So that helps. Hoye gives you 6 more Eng. Hp. than my 2000. That gave me the suspicion of something may be not right. The first thing that came to mind was if your Lift arms are actually lifting all the way up. I can set my Height by this Adj. on my 3Pt. and may not be lifting high enough were it's set. If you have the Adj.? It's to the far left by the Fender.....
Just had a good laugh also. Clemsonfor!! You see the green paint were I easily wiped the dirt away. It will get it washed in a couple of days now the mowing season is over. And I just fixed my pressure washer.. I'll post picks to prove it when I do.

 

[clemsonfor]

yep and that's for sure yanmar green unlike that more flat offish color green mine is painted. The yanmar has a metallic look in it to me?

 

[California]

I went and looked at the 1975 Nebraska Tractor Test - YM240 (pdf) [a 'Consumer Reports type lab test] but they didn't measure lift.

One thing they did document is Hi range first gear is lower than Lo range 4th, something we have subjectively felt.

Also they observed 210 degrees coolant temperature in their full load 2 hour test.

There's lots of interesting data in that report.