Yesterday. Would you buy and EV?

[Eagle1]

Care to elaborate? What kind of business do you run that not only pays nothing in taxes, but gets a "credit" from Uncle Sam? Sounds like quite the racket.

I'm talking personal tax credits, not corporate and I only make minimum wage personally. Corp taxes and business expenses are passed on to the customer.

If we did not grow/hunt most food I would not make it, but I love my lifestyle and location.

 

[cqaigy2]

I'm talking personal tax credits, not corporate and I only make minimum wage personally. Corp taxes and business expenses are passed on to the customer.

If we did not grow/hunt most food I would not make it, but I love my lifestyle and location.

Small corp taxes and business taxes are expensive. If you get big enough, you stop paying so much in taxes.

 

[Eagle1]

Well by plowing it all back into the business we have avoided most of that and the property is now paid off. Next step is to get the business closed and retire in less than 2 years..... My front yard just small part of the place

 

[CaptFerd]

Well by plowing it all back into the business we have avoided most of that and the property is now paid off. Next step is to get the business closed and retire in less than 2 years..... My front yard just small part of the place
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You do know that Vice President Biden has just recruited 86,000 heavily armed IRS tax auditors. I wouldn't be boasting to much about how your scamming my tax dollars off the federal gov.

 

[tradosaurus]

You do know that Vice President Biden has just recruited 86,000 heavily armed IRS tax auditors. I wouldn't be boasting to much about how your scamming my tax dollars off the federal gov.

More power to those who can avoid illegal taxation. Taxation is theft.

 

[Richard001]

About 1952 "killer smog" took the lives of 12,000 people in England, seriously injured another 20,000.
It still took them until 1956 to pass the "Clean Air Act".
These kind of events in China are never brought to light
So we can persist in being the frog in the pan of warming water or try to turn down the burner.

We should use all of the incentives we need to get there.
Power poles have to go up for wind farms, nuke plants, solar farms and hydro.
Customers have always paid for these poles. Call it Infrastructure.

Enabling the switch to EV's could be a good worth going for.

(Richard001, over time the Public Utilities Commission has been stacked by both parties and neither
party seems to be able to look into the future. Or at least see past the utilities' shareholders concerns.)

regards,
R

Ah yes, when the local electricity company builds a plant or sets up a solar or wind turbine farm, yeah, that is part of the cost of supplying the energy we need to keep the lights on, warm in the winter and cool in the summer.

However when when a private organization builds a solar or turbine farm for the purpose of making money, the current users of the local electricity company should NOT have to pay for the new power lines to connect to the established power grid.

That would be comparable to someone building a repair shop in the middle of a 100 acer field and then expect the city or county to build a paved road to his new building so he can profit for it.

 

[Eagle1]

You do know that Vice President Biden has just recruited 86,000 heavily armed IRS tax auditors. I wouldn't be boasting to much about how your scamming my tax dollars off the federal gov.

No scamming anything, perfectly legal and we not talking a fortune. I work over 8 hours per day 364 days year, and pay myself 40 hours per week at minimum wage. No vacation for 15 years and counting. Business pays it's bills and overhead. The plan was to own a chunk of land to homestead when I can collect SS to pay electric and taxes. We almost there. My gross income is well under 100K some years closer to 50k what the hell are they gonna tax?

 

[Muhammad]

Just wondering... is "Yesterday" suppose to be in the title?

Personally, one of the best things about tractor operation is the decibel level being so high that you can always say, "sorry honey, I didn't hear you calling me!" which would not be the case with an ev tractor.

At the end of the day if the machine gets the job done, at a comparable price point WITH A LIFETIME BATTERY WARRANTY, then sure, an EV tractor would be fine by me. But let's be realistic... no mfg is going to offer a lifetime battery warranty. So why would I want to buy a machine that I know will need a new battery in x hours no matter how well I maintain it? I know there have been a few issues here and there with blown diesel engines, largely due to inherent design flaws or lack of over-engineering of things like oil supply lines or injectors (and sometimes a big ? as to why an engine fails), but for the most part, a diesel engine can last 40-50 years and 10,000 hours, with proper care. How many batteries would you need in that same 40-50 year period?

BTW no more politics talk in this thread, please. The topic can go on without politics, I promise.

 

[Williy]

Even Mr Choo Choo uses DIESELPOWER to run
his electric motors. Their little fuel tanks only hold
4000 gallions of diesel.
For an electric tractor the battery would have to be
very very large to contain all the juice a tractor would
need for plowing for over 12 hours then the next thing
is how long is it going to take to charge it??? Starting
at 7am and plowing until 2am get a couple hours
sleep get ready to start plowing your electric tractor was
over worked and no juice to run it????? Then again
will the electric motors last for that time without over
heating etc??? What about the battery what will happen
to the battery being used for that amount of time???
Take an area of 100 guys charging their tractor batteries
can the electric companies supply the power needed??
For me I will stick with the diesel don't worry about no
electric power to charge it. For the farmer some of
them run all night and they keep changing drivers
so they can run all day so they go 24 hours a day
no electric tractor will work for them. But on the other
hand hydrogen fuel could work

willy

 

[Pixguy]

Ya might have to put some wheels on those panels.