Yet another pole barn build

BarnieTrk · May 7, 2016

s219 said:
What we did on my barn, and again on the lean-to I am adding, is to notch the post for just one of the headers, and then sister the second to it (with a lot of nails down the length). That way the second header sticks out and is on the same plane as the wall girts and you can attach siding directly to it. The first header has more than enough bearing area on the notched post to carry the roof load on down. Even the picky building inspector was happy with this when I showed him the loads. He was not going to let us just face nail the headers on as is standard practice with pole barns.

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S219,
Super idea! :drink:
I really like your approach with the notching and 'sistering' of the headers.

BarnieTrk

EddieWalker · May 7, 2016

I've done the bottom picture, but never done the top one with the side blocks. I assumed the metal brackets and then toe nailing into the ledger board would suffice. I can see where your method is better, and I appreciate the picture.

BarnieTrk · May 7, 2016

Woody65,

I don't mean to rain on your plans, but it appears that there are a few very tall trees that are close enough to crash into your new pole building if they were to come down towards it. I would suggest you take a second look at this issue.... yes, I understand that they are healthy, beautiful and provide shade NOW, however, over time these trees WILL become larger, WILL become older and likely hollow, and storms will happen in the future. Just something to consider.......

BarnieTrk

Woody65 · May 7, 2016

BarnieTrk said:
Woody65, I don't mean to rain on your plans, but it appears that there are a few very tall trees that are close enough to crash into your new pole building if they were to come down towards it. I would suggest you take a second look at this issue.... yes, I understand that they are healthy, beautiful and provide shade NOW, however, over time these trees WILL become larger, WILL become older and likely hollow, and storms will happen in the future. Just something to consider....... BarnieTrk

Barnie,

Thanks for the comments. I took down about 300 trees to clear the 3 acres and we kept the mature healthy ones. I did contemplate taking down the trees you are referring to but decided not to. I am willing to take the chance that they don't fall and if they get questionable health wise, there is plenty of room to safely remove them.

BarnieTrk · May 8, 2016

Woody65 said:
... if they get questionable health wise, there is plenty of room to safely remove them.

Cool. That is an important consideration - room to remove them if necessary. Storms happen and will topple healthy trees too - I would be sad to hear about such damage to a nice/new pole building like yours as a result.

BarnieTrk

lennyzx11 · May 8, 2016

Woody65,
What is the length(s) of the 6x6 posts you used to start with?

The upper header I see is 2 2x12s sistered. Is that a 2x8 bottom board?

Is that 24" spacing on centers for the girts?

I'm taking notes here.

Lenny

Woody65 · May 8, 2016

lennyzx11 said:
Woody65, What is the length(s) of the 6x6 posts you used to start with? The upper header I see is 2 2x12s sistered. Is that a 2x8 bottom board? Is that 24" spacing on centers for the girts? I'm taking notes here.<img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=467786"/> Lenny

Lenny,

The eve sides have 16' 6x6's 4' in the ground and 12' above grade. The gable sides have 20' 6x6's again 4' in the ground and 16' above grade to catch the gable end trusses.

The bottom ledger board is a 2x6 acq.

Everything is spaced at 24" o/c

KenB2920 · May 17, 2016

Lots more pictures requested please. Inside and out..... Anything you would do different or very thankful you did do?

lennyzx11 · May 17, 2016

KenB2920 said:
Lots more pictures requested please. Inside and out..... Anything you would do different or very thankful you did do?

X2 please.

Woody65 · May 17, 2016

KenB2920 said:
Lots more pictures requested please. Inside and out..... Anything you would do different or very thankful you did do?

I appreciate the interest.

I have built these type (pole method) and standard construction buildings before and don't have any things I would do differently. That being said, I am working on it with whatever free time I have. I also have to work around when I can get a helping hand so some things that I will be doing, if I had the time and extra help, I would do differently and in a different order. We will see when I get to those parts of the build which way it takes me.

I will say that it pays to get the pad as level as possible before you start. Also, I feel it is worth the effort to notch your posts to accept the header. It creates a direct load through the posts into the ground. The truss and roof load ( we have a lot of snow here ), doesn't have to be supported by carriage bolts if you do it this way.

I am working full time in NYC and trying to get to the property, which is 4hrs away whenever I can. So, no new pics yet. I have the trusses, rest of the framing lumber, metal roofing and board and batten siding being delivered on the 27th of this month. Next scheduled building push is the weekend of June 4th. I will have lots of pics then.