Yet another pole barn build

[BarnieTrk]

What we did on my barn, and again on the lean-to I am adding, is to notch the post for just one of the headers, and then sister the second to it (with a lot of nails down the length). That way the second header sticks out and is on the same plane as the wall girts and you can attach siding directly to it. The first header has more than enough bearing area on the notched post to carry the roof load on down. Even the picky building inspector was happy with this when I showed him the loads. He was not going to let us just face nail the headers on as is standard practice with pole barns.

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S219,
Super idea! :drink:
I really like your approach with the notching and 'sistering' of the headers.

BarnieTrk

 

[EddieWalker]

I've done the bottom picture, but never done the top one with the side blocks. I assumed the metal brackets and then toe nailing into the ledger board would suffice. I can see where your method is better, and I appreciate the picture.

 

[BarnieTrk]

Woody65,

I don't mean to rain on your plans, but it appears that there are a few very tall trees that are close enough to crash into your new pole building if they were to come down towards it. I would suggest you take a second look at this issue.... yes, I understand that they are healthy, beautiful and provide shade NOW, however, over time these trees WILL become larger, WILL become older and likely hollow, and storms will happen in the future. Just something to consider.......

BarnieTrk

 

[Woody65]

Woody65, I don't mean to rain on your plans, but it appears that there are a few very tall trees that are close enough to crash into your new pole building if they were to come down towards it. I would suggest you take a second look at this issue.... yes, I understand that they are healthy, beautiful and provide shade NOW, however, over time these trees WILL become larger, WILL become older and likely hollow, and storms will happen in the future. Just something to consider....... BarnieTrk

Barnie,

Thanks for the comments. I took down about 300 trees to clear the 3 acres and we kept the mature healthy ones. I did contemplate taking down the trees you are referring to but decided not to. I am willing to take the chance that they don't fall and if they get questionable health wise, there is plenty of room to safely remove them.

 

[BarnieTrk]

... if they get questionable health wise, there is plenty of room to safely remove them.

Cool. That is an important consideration - room to remove them if necessary. Storms happen and will topple healthy trees too - I would be sad to hear about such damage to a nice/new pole building like yours as a result.

BarnieTrk

 

[lennyzx11]

Woody65,
What is the length(s) of the 6x6 posts you used to start with?

The upper header I see is 2 2x12s sistered. Is that a 2x8 bottom board?

Is that 24" spacing on centers for the girts?

I'm taking notes here.

Lenny

 

[Woody65]

Woody65, What is the length(s) of the 6x6 posts you used to start with? The upper header I see is 2 2x12s sistered. Is that a 2x8 bottom board? Is that 24" spacing on centers for the girts? I'm taking notes here.<img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=467786"/> Lenny

Lenny,

The eve sides have 16' 6x6's 4' in the ground and 12' above grade. The gable sides have 20' 6x6's again 4' in the ground and 16' above grade to catch the gable end trusses.

The bottom ledger board is a 2x6 acq.

Everything is spaced at 24" o/c

 

[KenB2920]

Lots more pictures requested please. Inside and out..... Anything you would do different or very thankful you did do?

 

[lennyzx11]

Lots more pictures requested please. Inside and out..... Anything you would do different or very thankful you did do?

X2 please.

 

[Woody65]

Lots more pictures requested please. Inside and out..... Anything you would do different or very thankful you did do?

I appreciate the interest.

I have built these type (pole method) and standard construction buildings before and don't have any things I would do differently. That being said, I am working on it with whatever free time I have. I also have to work around when I can get a helping hand so some things that I will be doing, if I had the time and extra help, I would do differently and in a different order. We will see when I get to those parts of the build which way it takes me.

I will say that it pays to get the pad as level as possible before you start. Also, I feel it is worth the effort to notch your posts to accept the header. It creates a direct load through the posts into the ground. The truss and roof load ( we have a lot of snow here ), doesn't have to be supported by carriage bolts if you do it this way.

I am working full time in NYC and trying to get to the property, which is 4hrs away whenever I can. So, no new pics yet. I have the trusses, rest of the framing lumber, metal roofing and board and batten siding being delivered on the 27th of this month. Next scheduled building push is the weekend of June 4th. I will have lots of pics then.

 

[KenB2920]

I appreciate the interest. I have built these type (pole method) and standard construction buildings before and don't have any things I would do differently. That being said, I am working on it with whatever free time I have. I also have to work around when I can get a helping hand so some things that I will be doing, if I had the time and extra help, I would do differently and in a different order. We will see when I get to those parts of the build which way it takes me. I will say that it pays to get the pad as level as possible before you start. Also, I feel it is worth the effort to notch your posts to accept the header. It creates a direct load through the posts into the ground. The truss and roof load ( we have a lot of snow here ), doesn't have to be supported by carriage bolts if you do it this way. I am working full time in NYC and trying to get to the property, which is 4hrs away whenever I can. So, no new pics yet. I have the trusses, rest of the framing lumber, metal roofing and board and batten siding being delivered on the 27th of this month. Next scheduled building push is the weekend of June 4th. I will have lots of pics then.

Great! Share them all. I'm always looking for ideas. So far., so good

 

[Woody65]

Got some deliveries this weekend. 21 trusses, purlins and the rough sawn board and batten siding. I had the trusses built for 4' on center. I will be placing them 2' on center for a stronger roof structure. The difference in the overall price in relation to the total project was minimal and I like the idea of having them spaced at that distance if I wish to add a storage area in the loft. Construction resumes this Friday.....

Boring pics of the materials.....

 

[brown40]

Beautiful progress. The capboard really ties everything together, distributes the loads, and makes for much easier truss placement.

 

[lennyzx11]

Woody, how is the truss fastened to the cap board properly? Toe nailing and or hurricane plates?

 

[Woody65]

Woody, how is the truss fastened to the cap board properly? Toe nailing and or hurricane plates?

Lenny,
I won't be using a cap board. The trusses will be fastened to the extended parts of the 6x6 posts every 8' feet. In between the posts, to boards that are fastened to the double 2x12 headers that span the length of the structure. In addition, I will have hurricane clips from the bottom cord to the header. If I was using a cap board, I would toe nail and use the hurricane clips.

 

[Woody65]

Well, we had a good weekend. I did some prep work on Friday and had my son, brother and a friend come out and help with the trusses, roofing and siding. They are not skilled builders or carpenters but free labor is cheap. I knew I was going to have to be builder, foreman, carpenter and roofer since I was the only one with experience. All in all it was a good couple of days except for the pouring rain on Sunday that we worked through without lunch. They definitely were troopers and I worked them hard. Enjoy the pics.....

Friday prep work










Saturday, getting the trusses and purlins all up. I pre marked the purlins and trusses to accept each other at 24" on center. This made life easy as we just set them and looked for the marks which squared them up. Sunday got the roof on and started the siding.

 

[s219]

Looks real good Woody -- you guys made some serious progress!

 

[Woody65]

Looks real good Woody -- you guys made some serious progress!

Thanks! Looks like the next time I will have a chance to move ahead will be 2 weeks from now. One foot in front of the other is the only way to get there.....

 

[Woody65]

Enjoy the pics!!!!!!!!

 

[Woody65]

Got in a day and a half on the barn. It was 90 degrees and humid so my uncle and I took it slow but put a descent dent in the siding.

Enjoy the pics......