Yet another shed project.

N80 · May 12, 2008

Redbug said:
You got a real good start, George. Is the shed to store your tractor and attachments in? Is it going to have open sides with a covered back? One thing to think about or add later are some shelves along the walls to store smaller items and get them off the floor. Looking good.

For now, just open all the way around. Some siding, shelving, etc will probably come later (already scheming about that). Fortunately I have a 10x16 tool shed nearby.

MrJimi · May 12, 2008

Ok, I'll stand in the corner now

I watched a great special on TV about the penquins and it made me very sad
When I put my PT power pole in the ground, I got some roofing tar and thinned out and applied it with a brush like the power companys do at the base

N80 · May 12, 2008

MrJimi said:
Ok, I'll stand in the corner now
I watched a great special on TV about the penquins and it made me very sad
When I put my PT power pole in the ground, I got some roofing tar and thinned out and applied it with a brush like the power companys do at the base

I used to work at the phone company during the summers, putting up and taking down poles. We did not apply anything to them, neither the PT nor older creosote poles. Just stuck them straight in the ground.

However, when pulling the old (I mean old) creosote poles, some of them would be rotten at the base.

I imagine a good coating of tar or creosote would be a good idea. I wonder if you can even get creosote anymore.

Redbug · May 12, 2008

I know the railroads are exempted from the law and still use creosoted cross ties along railways. I believe it is still used pretty extensively overseas, too. Also, the older pressure treated wood with copper arsenate is allowed around here for some ag, foundation, and marine uses.
I also have painted roofing tar, (blackjack), on pole bottoms before being put in the ground. I don't know how a person could fanagle to get a bucket or two of creosote. Ahhh...the good old days...blasting caps, etc...

N80 · May 12, 2008

I used to hate climbing the PT poles. The wood is spongy and your spikes just sort of push in. In the old creosote poles the spikes cut in and felt very secure. I always felt like the PT poles were trying to push my spikes back out.

But, if you fell while climbing a creosote pole, the instinct to hug the pole was rewarded with a chest full of splinters. The PT poles were much more pleasant to hug.

Redbug · May 12, 2008

I also have spikes, with the longer gaffs for trees. Poles use a shorter type. Nowdays, for pruning I use climbing gear with ropes and ascenders to keep from injuring a good tree. I'm not in as good a shape as I used to be, though... Tree climbing has become a real sport nowdays. Kinda like rock climbing.

EddieWalker · May 12, 2008

Gearge,

For me, I'm just as excited about a fancy building as I am about a simple one. The challenge is in making it strong with less money. One of my favorite ways to build!!!!

Eddie

N80 · May 13, 2008

Here's a question for you guys. I'm going to put a metal roof on it. The cheapest stuff is the galvanized 'grand rib' which is what is on my cabin. The local lumber yard has the best prices. The roof is 24' front to back so my initial plan was to get 14' and 12' sections with 2' of overlap.

But, to get 14' sections I'll have to borrow or rent a trailer. Sections that big will also be a real pain to handle for me, my wife and my son, especially getting them up there. And it is often breezy here too.

So I began to think about using 10' and 8' sections. They will be much easier for me to haul using my own truck and trailer. What I'd have is a 10, then a 10 then an 8, each with 2' of overlap. This may be more expensive and there will be more 'joints' too. But would there be any other downsides to using more smaller panels vs fewer large ones?

N80 · May 14, 2008

I made some phone calls. Using 10' and 8' sections will only cost about $40 more than using 14' and 12' sections.

And I realize that more seams = more potential leaks but it will be so much easier for me to use smaller panels.

I do wonder about runoff though. My pitch is very very shallow. I don't guess more seams will impact that?