YM 2210D How does it work?

[tomture]

Hello,

I just bought an old beat up YM 2210D.

Would somebody mind telling me what the 4 different shifter levers are for on this model tractor? I know the Power Shift lever and the 2wd/4wd lever, but there are 2 more levers, right in front of the drivers seat, and I dont know what they are for.

My manual is for a different model tractor that has a different layout than the one I own. I would like to understand if there is a pattern that the different gear lay in,..

Is the PTO controlled by the clutch and one of the levers??

Also, how long does it take for the powershift to engage after I release the clutch?? 2-3 sec??

Would you know where the Transmission Fluid filter is located on the 2210D?


Thanks very much for your help.

 

[California]

I have a smaller Yanmar with Powershift. From what I have learned, they designed it to have a delay between letting the clutch out and moving forward.

The transmission input shaft (driven by the clutch) turns a tiny hydraulic pump that energizes the Powershift's internal clutch packs. The tractor won't move until those clutches engage. Of course dirty fluid and plugged filters could slow the hydraulic fluid to make an unreasonable delay.

I like their design. Letting the clutch out starts the huge inertia of a rotary mower or tiller immediately. Then a moment later after that load on the engine is lessened, the engine hp is available to start moving uphill in a taller gear than could have been used if everything were directly connected.

This capability may not be essential on your larger Yanmar. For my little Yanmar with 15 hp at the pto, it makes it surprisingly close in performance to my 20 hp (pto) Yanmar.

Is one of your shift levers for Hi/Lo range ahead of the main transmission?

 

[piotrbpm]

PL
Może ja coś pomogę od 3 miesięcy jestem użytkownikiem tego modelu.
Dzwignia po lewej odpowiada za 4 prędkości PTO.
Dzwignia po prawej to 5 biegów mechanicznych przekładni .
Dzwignia mała środkowa to powershift z w zakresie 3 do przodu i 1 wsteczny .
Co daje 15 biegów do przodu i 5 do tyłu
Może kolega jest zainteresowany japońskim katalogiem częsci do tego modelu ?
ANG
Maybe I'll help anything between 3 months and I am using this model.
Lever on the left is responsible for the 4 speed PTO.
Lever on the right is a 5-speed mechanical gearbox.
Lever is a small middle-powershift conjunction of 3 forward and 1 reverse.
What gives you 15 forward gears and reverse 5
Maybe a friend is interested in the Japanese catalog parts to this model?

 

[winston1]

Transmission screen cover. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/yanmar/120730-hydro-system-filter.html

 

[tomture]

Fantastic, Thanks very much for the help!!

Here is what I found out. If facing forward, the left lever is the range lever. The gears lay in a kind of H pattern 1,2,3,4 and C. C for crawl. In conjunction with the "Power Shift" that makes for 12 forward gears and 4 reverse? The lever to the right is the PTO lever. Gears also in a H pattern 1,2,3 and 4. I found this video where you can get a glimpse of the layout. Start the video at 1.05.

Thanks also for pointing me in the right direction to the transmission Screen Cover. I will take it apart on Thursday.

Again, Thanks for all your help.


YouTube - Yanmar 2210D 4x4 Compact Tractor w/ New Custom Loader - Josef Tractor

 

[Roonabeck]

I have a smaller Yanmar with Powershift. From what I have learned, they designed it to have a delay between letting the clutch out and moving forward.

Really? My 1510 has no delay at all. If I push the clutch in, select a gear, and pop the clutch out, it takes off just like I would expect from a regular non-powershift gear-driven model. Your 186d doesn't do that?

 

[California]

My 1510 has no delay at all. If I push the clutch in, select a gear, and pop the clutch out, it takes off just like I would expect from a regular non-powershift gear-driven model. Your 186d doesn't do that?

No. It's about the same as my Ford Focus where shifting from neutral to D or R has a momentary delay. Maybe a little longer than the Ford. That is at low rpm. I don't think I ever tried this at high rpm.

Dave's in Red Bluff, a former Yanmar importer (now selling Mahindra) did some repairs for me after I bought it elsewhere. He advised me that this delay is a known characteristic of YM186. I assumed 1510 would do this also.

If you get instantaneous gear engagement - maybe it's time for me to clean my strainer. It had new fluid and external filter when I bought it in 2009 and the strainer was claimed to have been cleaned, so I haven't serviced it yet.

What are the observations of other Powershift owners?

 

[284 International]

My YM186D behaves just as California describes. Apparently it's a trait of the design. The last paragraph in the first column describes it:

(This file is a scan of a sales brochure originally from RScotty)

I haven't experienced enough of a difference in implement engagement time to get, say, a brush mower up to speed, but there is some lag that would work for a tiller or something. It feels just about like having a car in park on a cold morning, starting it, then immediately dropping it into gear. There's a just-perceptible lag, then the engine is connected.

 

[California]

Thanks for posting that. The YM186 delay seems to be 'a feature, not a bug'.

However it works, it avoids what I worry about on the YM240: having to feather the clutch to get the mower started, simultaneous with getting the tractor moving in a too-tall gear.

RScotty is amazing. He's one of my heroes, the inspiration for me to keep helping novices when I see them ask the identical questions I asked with my first Yanmar. And he's been at this 30 years or so! :drink:

 

[Pete Judd]

My 186D has a slight delay when shifting the power shift. Seems normal, and I got used to it real quick.