You cant call it back!

thegreatrandini · May 16, 2005

Yes but that is based on the person shot getting medical attention. I read all this stuff on the internet when I bought my pistol.. Regular rounds tend to make the person bleed to death. It was also stressed that it would take more rounds to stop the intruder therefore the hollow point is less leathal. I always thought it would be the otherway and steered away from hollow points. I now use them....The JHP rounds have the least overpenetration except for Glaser Safety Slug. Look this stuff up for yourself. I am ordering the Glaser's cuz I don't want to kill anyone I just want to stop them from hurting me or my family.

edski · May 16, 2005

Like you Bird, I was raised in a home w/ guns. Like my grandaddy said, an unloaded gun is nothin more than a hammer...a piece of steel with a wood grip. Funny thing, as a youngster I always knew where the guns were, and never once bothered them, or showed a friend. I knew they were serious business. If I ever wanted to go shooting, I asked Dad and we went.

Keep something a mystery from a kid and they'll think of nothing else. Explain, demonstrate, teach, share and they tend to act accordingly. Just my .02

hobbyfarm · May 16, 2005

( Funny thing, as a youngster I always knew where the guns were, and never once bothered them, or showed a friend. I knew they were serious business. If I ever wanted to go shooting, I asked Dad and we went. )

As it should be! Personally, I think in these days of single-parent households/broken families/divorces etc. there is a lot more curiosity about them and that's why we here so much bad press about some youngster shooting his/her cousin/brother/neighbor...you get the picture. There's something that's key to growing up (dad??) missing in their lives.

DannyD · May 17, 2005

I am ordering the Glaser's cuz I don't want to kill anyone I just want to stop them from hurting me or my family. ...........

At the risk of sounding like a madman, if someone comes in my home with intent to harm me or my family, he is not going out breathing and with a heart beat. I have loaded guns in my home, all but one locked up, and that one will stop someone dead in their tracks. They can have whatever they want, but harm me or the family, they are bought and paid for.

Birdhunter1 · May 17, 2005

( I am ordering the Glaser's cuz I don't want to kill anyone I just want to stop them from hurting me or my family. ...........

At the risk of sounding like a madman, if someone comes in my home with intent to harm me or my family, he is not going out breathing and with a heart beat. I have loaded guns in my home, all but one locked up, and that one will stop someone dead in their tracks. They can have whatever they want, but harm me or the family, they are bought and paid for.
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No disagreement here either.

guyrj33 · May 17, 2005

The links posted earlier was a bit confusing, as one of them was similar but pointed to storage containers.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/ This is the link to the site where the tests are done showing bullets traveling thru various mediums; wallboard, pine etc.

sneaky_pete · May 17, 2005

( ...It is all about stopping power for home defense. .22's do kill but maybe not stop a methed out burglar with an Uzi in hand. You got to end it right now. This means use a weopon with stopping power.)

I agree, and a 1911-style .45 autoloader is my home sidearm of choice, but - as a data point, I was once shot with a small-caliber weapon (probably a .22) in the leg, and when I was I went down instantly. Maybe it was a lucky shot, and I wasn't "methed out", but it put me out of action right away and made a permenant injury I can still feel more than 30 years later. Bled like a stuck pig too. I might not count on that kind of result every time, but it sure gave me a life-long respect for for small calibers.

rcrcomputing · May 17, 2005

( I am ordering the Glaser's cuz I don't want to kill anyone I just want to stop them from hurting me or my family. ...........

At the risk of sounding like a madman, if someone comes in my home with intent to harm me or my family, he is not going out breathing and with a heart beat. I have loaded guns in my home, all but one locked up, and that one will stop someone dead in their tracks. They can have whatever they want, but harm me or the family, they are bought and paid for.
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Well said. Though I dissagree with the part "they can have whatever they want". I've worked hard all my life for what we have and no scum-person will just take it. Though, I probably would not shoot to kill for that. I have one gun in my house, a 22. I do not live in fear. I do not feel a need for a bigger gun. But woe is the man that comes to my house with ill intent. Bad behaviour such as this would NOT go un-rewarded.

Moon · May 17, 2005

Well said Danny! You don't sound like a madman at all.
I'd do the same in a heartbeat in that situation. I'd also guess we all hope it doesn't come to that ..but you have to be prepared and think thru things beforehand or your left thinking instead of acting.

Moon of Ohio

thegreatrandini · May 17, 2005

Well once he is down I will have to decide how fast I call the amulance!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Point is really that the glazer rounds will stop a man instantly, but it won't go through drywall.. that way you won't shoot your wife hiding in the closet, or your dog, or the neibor, etc.... If you miss you won't hit a water or gas pipe.. These rounds are less leathal. If the person you thought was trying to kill you turned out to be the neibors kid who was just drunk and thought this was his house.... He may not die....I dropped a friend of mine off safely at his moms house when we were kids.. He was so drunk he wondered next door and was trying to enter when the cops came by.. He was just a drunken kid. He has turned out to be a productive part of society... He is a good father and husband....If the door had been easy to open and the home owner had a gun I have no doubt he would have been shot... It would be better if it were a Glazer.. These are just a couple of examples.. I think a .22 auto would make a pretty good self defence weapon.. You could accurately squeeze off 10 rounds.. The person hit with 5 of those rounds would be less likely to survive than one hit with one .38sp or .357 glazer safety round....The 5 rounds that missed may be in your wife, kid, dog, gas pipe, neibor, etc.... Do you see my point.... Now I intend to load my revolver with 2 glazers, 2 jhp, and 2 solid rounds.. My thinking is that there could be more than one intruder and that after I fire the Glazers and hollow points the intruders will have taken cover if not hit.. In this case I may want to shoot through drywall etc.. to get them.. I also would have a speed loader full of solids......i am not going to buy armour piercing rounds because I don't think anyone with body armour will ever attack me in my home... I hope I am correct....