Z Force Leaf Collection

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GBHRPS

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Southern Ontario, Canada
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CC Z Force 48
Gentlemen,

Before fall I want to add a leaf collection system to the zero turn. I would prefer a belt powered blower from the mower deck, similar to the John Deere units of the same size. I have no need for the bagger unit on the rear of the tractor, as I'm going to prefab my tow behind trailer as a collection /dump box.

The John Deere Power Flow system is readily available and there are more than a few units out there. Cub Cadet blower powered systems appear to be almost non existent. What gives? I'm looking for advice from anyone who has a zero turn outfitted for leaf collection, regardless of whether they have the bagger system or not.

Gene
 
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I have a ZForce 50 and have a cyclone rake for fall clean up, have had this setup for 8 years. It's a bit of a learning curve steering due to the extended length but after a little practice its no problem. What I like about it is to pull two pins to disconnect and using no power from the mower and dumping is easy. My 2 cents.
 
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coolreinfarm,

Thanks for the followup! I've looked at the Cyclone Rake several times and have been most impressed, but with my limited storage space for another toy, the fact that it'd get used maybe 6 hours a year, and the $1700 layout by the time I'd get it, it can't be justified.
 
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I know its a lot of money but it can be transferred to a new machine when the need arises, the bagger system applies to that mower alone. The cyclone rake does fold up and takes up little room.
 
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I know its a lot of money but it can be transferred to a new machine when the need arises, the bagger system applies to that mower alone. The cyclone rake does fold up and takes up little room.

Which brand has a 1 year return policy if you don't like it?

I know one of the pull behinds is made by agri fab and has a nice self powered vacuum unit on it and on sale they run $999.99 pretty regularly. Has a zero turn kit option too as well as extended hose for extra cleanup needs.

Agri-Fab Mow - N - Vac at Blain's Farm & Fleet
 
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Cyclone Rake had a one year return policy have not checked the website in a while. I didn't like the single point leaf vacs on a zero turn too hard to back up, the two point hitch is better.
 
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Gentlemen,

I lucked out and was able to buy two John Deere Power Flow units, one for a 54 inch deck and another for a 62 inch deck. Both are in great working order. As well, I got one complete discharge chute and about 1/3 of the rear bagger unit for the same.

After tearing both blower units apart, I cleaned and relubed the fan bearings, and carefully removed every bolt from the unit, cleaned the threads and put anti seize on them before reassembly. (These blower units have a plastic shell with blind nuts in the plastic that the fan bearing plate and mounting assembly bolt to. Seized bolts would only break free from the plastic and make reassembly impossible.)

I sourced a longer deck blade bearing bolt and another pulley for the deck blades from a bearing supply house for $30. (Tried Cub Cadet but the total price was almost $150 for the proper bolt and pulley for my deck.) That allowed me to stack two pulleys on the deck blade closest to the discharge chute, the lower for driving the deck blade, the upper to drive the fan of the power Flow unit.

Looking at JD Power Flow unit Manuals online, I made up the brackets needed to mount the Power Flow unit to my Z Force 48, and tracked down a belt long enough to power the unit from the additional pulley.

Then I sourced 10 feet of 7 inch hose (NOT CHEAP!) to fix to the end of the discharge chute and go to my collection trailer.

The last job was to make up plywood sides, back and top to add to my existing tow behind garden trailer, all held together with bungee cords, and carriage bolts and wing nuts. I added a large screen section to the top to allow the compressed air to escape, and then added a hitch to the Z Force to pull the trailer around.

The collection box rear door comes completely off with the bungee cord removal, and the entire box comes apart easily to stack up for seasonal storage without taking up any room. Once full of leaves, remove the back door and rake the leaf mulch out with a rake.

Leaves are just starting to fall here in spits and spurts, and the first test run has worked like a charm. Total cost is about $400 as I sold the 2nd fan unit to a neighbour. It took a month or so to search on Kijiji/CraigsList to find the fan units, but they are out there.
 
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GBHRPS - Nice job. Just curious.. how much noise when you wind the whole rig up to full RPM?
 
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rceb,

After reading your post I had to think about it for a moment or two ..... and I'd have to say that it really doesn't add any more noise to the system at all. With a twin engine out back and the three deck blades spinning, the addition of just a rotating fan doesn't add much to the equation.

On top of that, I have a set of ear protection muffs that have a built in AM/FM radio that I wear whenever I'm running powered equipment, so its a non issue.

The next time I have the entire unit out, I'll take a picture or two and post back into this thread, for those who might be interested.
 
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Cool.
 
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Gentlemen,

The promised pictures of the completed leaf collection system.

First off, the center deck pulley has a bolt longer than the other two spindles, to accommodate two stacked pulleys. You will need one this length as well as with the fine thread. As well, you will need another pulley (3/4 inch diameter center) to stack on your outer deck spindle, and somewhat smaller in diameter than the deck spindle pulleys. (JD does it with their Power Flow system, so I did as well.)

The fan assembly (John Deere Power Flow 54 in or 62 in) mounts at the front with a 3/4 inch ( inside diameter) tube that can be bolted to the deck or in this case welded to the deck bogey wheel. The fan assembly then just swings into the discharge opening of the deck.

Notice the straight bar at the fan assembly's rear that just fits into a hole on a rear bracket (fabricated and welded to the deck). On a JD this is the rear bogey wheel mount. Its purpose is not to carry any weight of the fan assembly, but rather to act as a tension against the spring loaded drive belt to the deck, and to position the fan assembly in the discharge opening.

Notice that the drive belts and pulleys are all exposed. There is a plastic cover for it, but leaving it off allows me to watch for belt wear, etc. And yes, there are no safety concerns, as I'm the only one using the unit, and there are no children living within a mile of my county home.

The fan assembly doesn't entirely cover the deck discharge opening at the rear, and a small strip of mulched leaves and grass is left behind with each pass, only to be picked up by overlapping on the next pass down the lawn. Not perfect, but close enough.

JD states to attach the entire system to a deck that is properly levelled, and then to lower the bogey wheels on the discharge /fan assembly side, front and rear, one notch. This basically keeps the right side of the deck from scalping the lawn because of the additional weight of the fan assembly on that side, and prevents the plastic bottom of the fan assembly from scalping the ground and wearing through. (I might pop rivet a thin sheet of metal to the bottom of the fan assembly, if I find the plastic is wearing through.

From there I attached the plastic chute to the fan (notice the factory bungee cord at the fan) and connected the 7 inch diameter hose to its end and the top of the collection trailer. (The fluted hard plastic bellows-like sections at both ends of the hose are from the original grass bagger system. I cut it in two, fastened one end into the trailer box by just a press fit, and used a hose clamp at the discharge chute end.

The hose just press fits into each end and doesn't require a fastener. The 7 inch hose is EXPENSIVE, but is the best you can buy at almost $20 a foot. I had to purchase 10 feet, but only required 5 feet, so I guess I have an extra for down the road. Note the hose support part way down the hose, simply part of the original JD bagger system. Two small bungee cords in vinyl hose circle the hose and clip onto the support rod.
The hitch is simply part of the bagger assembly frame that I hacked off and bolted to the Z Force.

The collection box is not a beauty but is made from 3/8 plywood I had stored from other projects. The 1 x 2 inch strapping allowed me to connect the smaller sheets together and allow for strength at ends and corners, where bungee cords and carriage bolts with wing nuts allow for the entire box to be taken apart and stored for next year.

The top cover is vented with ordinary screening, and the rear door lifts completely off for emptying the box when full, using a garden rake. My trailer has a dump function, but doing so to empty it would require much longer hose. I hope to some day fabricate the box from galvanized steel sheeting. We'll see.

Gene leaf2.jpgleaf1.jpgleaf3.jpgleaf4.jpgleaf5.jpg
 
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Very nice job !
 

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