Zero Turn Mower Questions

/ Zero Turn Mower Questions #61  
I swap out and then sharpen my Gator blades each year, just because I feel like "I should". But honestly, other than one or two very tiny nicks, the edge is still as sharp as factory at the end of a season. My seasons consist of about 70 hours of mowing + 30 hours of running the machine without the mower running.
 
/ Zero Turn Mower Questions #62  
Hi GranpaSmurf - yes I run Gator blades - I bought a 9 Pack 12 years ago and still some new ones! They are the .250" thick version - so I swap them out usually 2x per year and have a set sharp ready to go all the time.

This only happens on specific grasses where little grass is present so I double cut those small areas mowing the other direction takes care of it.

Yes, your Cobalt is almost identical to my machine - here's a few pics from 2025 - 15 yrs old.
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Looks like it's in excellent shape. I have had mine for 9 years now. Under 300 hours I think. No reason to get rid of something that doesn't have anything wrong with it. I had my Dixie Chopper for 16 years. Blew a head gasket on it at the end of the season. I bought this mower new and repaired the head gasket and sold the Dixie Chopper.
Everyone has different mowing conditions and I chuckle when the statements are made that "brand X" will mow that in X amount of time. I've been all over the country and know that the grass is different here than in Maine or Florida, or you name it. You have to compare mowers on your conditions. What I can say is that 10 or 12 MPH top speed is nice. However there isn't any brand that will mow our thick spring grass flat out at 10 or 12 MPH. We are right beside a park and they have a 9xx Deere and an Exmark. He doesn't run flat out I can assure you. Later in the years as the summer heat takes over he probably can.
 
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/ Zero Turn Mower Questions #63  
So I was curious about my mowing speed today. I have an app I use for when I'm spraying, so here it is. This is 90,000sq feet of lawn, and a 72" deck.

This was at a little faster pace than previous weeks, because the grass was only 7-8" tall. It has been 10-12".

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Beautiful !
I have tracked my mows before, and maintaining an average of 4mph is really moving!
 
/ Zero Turn Mower Questions #64  
I am glad my mower moves pretty quickly, but until I can fix the seat belt, I am not going to get in a big hurry. When I got a zero-turn, I suddenly realized how much safer a tractor was.
 
/ Zero Turn Mower Questions #66  
The great thing about mowers, they are simple machines. After 7 years, I've never needed a dealer for my Hustler. The only mower service I've needed in the past 20 years, was an engine replacement on my trail mower, which I did myself. Dealers are nice, but if I think Im really going to need them, maybe I need to buy a better brand

Great point! A quality ZTR is not a throw-away machine, and any part on it can be replaced. Many use the exact same hydro pumps, engines, etc. You can basically buy one, and it will last you for life. Even if you have a mechanic do it, they are low-cost machines to work on. Even the engine is easily swapped out. The frames on them are like tanks and will really never be hurt unless abused.
 
/ Zero Turn Mower Questions #68  
I bought a Hustler Super Z (35 HP Kawasaki with 72" deck) back in 2013.
The thing is build like a tank (weighs 1600 lbs) and I expect it to last the rest of my lifetime.
it probably will out last you as long as you change oil and do regular maintenance.

I expect my 2010 Ferris with Kawasaki to easily last another 15 years at which point i will be 85 and if I'm still around - that would be great.

Neighbor just hit 96 and gets out every day on his riding mower to cut the grass and yard clean up.
 
/ Zero Turn Mower Questions #71  
My neighbor mows his twice a week, does not matter if it needs it or not
 
/ Zero Turn Mower Questions #72  
I haven't cut mine in three weeks because the dirt would blow away.
 
/ Zero Turn Mower Questions #73  
My 96 YO neighbor mows in sections, then tows his garden cart around, trimming things the other days. He's always moving, keeping active.

Get's him out of the house, and then at 3 PM has tea every day with his 97 yo wife on the patio in the warm season.
 
/ Zero Turn Mower Questions #74  
This was about 2.5 weeks of growth, way past due, but I wasn't around ... Over 2' high!

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Now cut to 5", last time I cut it at 3.5". . .

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/ Zero Turn Mower Questions #75  
it probably will out last you as long as you change oil and do regular maintenance.
The mower will. The Kawasaki... not so much. Throw-away engines.

But it's easy to re-power!

Short of pistons, crank, and rods, I did a total split-case rebuild of my Kawasaki V-twin. By the time the job was done, I'd have been better off just re-powering, but I was chasing a problem that failed to reveal itself until I was already past the point of no return.
 
/ Zero Turn Mower Questions #76  
The mower will. The Kawasaki... not so much. Throw-away engines.

How many hours?

I have over 1450 hours on mine ... It had about 1300 on it when I bought it four years old, it was in a small commercial fleet ... I went through it, the oil cooler was only about 25% clear, I cleaned it out ...
 
/ Zero Turn Mower Questions #77  
How many hours?
I did my rebuild at 1200 hours, and found by accident in the course of it, that it needed new heads. Very common, according to the Deere service manager that works on them everyday, because of the way the valve guides tend to slip when the motors run hot due to grass fouling the cooling routes between the plastic shround, stamped sheetmetal head covers, and the cast cooling fins on the heads. Most engines have replaceable valve guides, but not Kawi, you just replace the whole head.

I have over 1450 hours on mine ...
I'm around the same on mine. I've always been told lifespan on the Kawi's is 2000 hours, maybe 2500 if you take real care and are lucky. But that's also probably based on guys who pay for service, that being the threshold where servicing becomes more expensive than replacement.

If your own time is free and available, and you have the skills and tools to service your own, then obviously the math can change.

I went through it, the oil cooler was only about 25% clear, I cleaned it out ...
Is your oil cooler bolted to the crank case, sandwiched between the filter and crank case? If so, they do tend to get sticky and hold dirt, so engine degreaser is your friend, there. The o-ring between that oil cooler and crank case needs replacement every few years, the factory-installed one on my motor failed before 700 hours, and the one I put in it's place several years ago is just starting to weep now.

The fatal flaw with these engines is the way they suck grass in behind the shroud and heat shields. If there's any oil on those cooling fins, all that dust and dirt just sticks to them, and wrecks the cooling. Then the heads overheat, valve guides slip, and all other sorts of issues. I blow mine clean with the leaf blower after every single mowing, but even then, when I pull the shrouds off for a yearly cleaning or other repair, I always find some grass and filth trapped in there.

edit: Just remembered that most of these Kawi V-twins, maybe all except those they specially configure for Deere, have a crankcase breather that's real susceptible to failure. YouTube and other sources are chock-full of videos on how to replace this breather, which involves total engine tear-down and splitting the crank case, on most configurations of this engine. They use a different breather on the models they build for Deere, which seems to be much more robust and less prone to failure, than the type I see on most of these engines. In any case, that's one item that might cause a dealer to just re-power a machine, as the repair process is going to come with excessive costs for a 2000 hour engine.
 
/ Zero Turn Mower Questions #78  
Yeah, this was my oil cooler ... I took a wire to poke through the crud, then a brush, than brake cleaner ...

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The heads were surprisingly clean, although the valves needed adjustment ... So it did have regular maintenance, but they seemed to have overlooked the oil cooler!

I wish they had a taller, and FINER mesh on top to catch the clippings when the wind blows the wrong way ... Now I just reach around every so often if I'm in those type of conditions and idle down and sweep the top off with my hand ...

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Also important to keep the air inlet mesh for the drive motors clear when it's windy! I can reach down between the seat and get those too at the same time.
 
/ Zero Turn Mower Questions #79  
Is your motor vertical shaft? Mine is horizontal, with the pump pulleyed off the front of the motor, and the mower deck PTO on the back.

I also have issues with grass piling up in front of the pump. But since it's under my seat and jammed up against the hydro oil reservoir, I have to wait until I shut down and lift the seat to clean that. I can blow it clean with the blower sometimes, but more often it takes a stick or wire to clean the gap between the oil reservoir and pump fan shround. Stupid design.
 
/ Zero Turn Mower Questions #80  
I like diesel. I rarely have to refuel, ethanol problems are not possible, and assuming this engine wasn't doomed when I got it, it should outlast me.
 
 
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