Adding a rear remote for flail mower

[Komrade]

I have a front remote that gets used for grapple and plow.
I have hydraulics in the back for the detachable backhoe, but the backhoe controls are on the attachment itself.
I have a little switch that let's me redirect the hydraulics from front to back.
Can the front remote also control the back, or would I require a separate joystick/remote?

Happy to add pictures on request.

 

[leonz]

As long as you have a long enough pair of hoses and the right quick couplers on the hoses for the side shift
cylinder you should have no problems.

 

[powerscol]

When I installed my 3rd function I T'eed and ran lines forward and back from the valve outputs so I could run either set from the thumb switch on my loader control. Somewhere here I have pictures of my install. Works great.

 

[ericm979]

You may need to put restrictors on the flail's hydraulics if it doesn't have them already. Their cylinders are usually small. The full flow from the 3rd function will move it very fast if there's no restrictors.

 

[Komrade]

Reviving this thread, as my (new to me) AGL145 ditch flail mower has 2 cylinders with separate connectors, and even if I reroute the front port to back via extensions, I still need another port.
Is it best to use front loader connectors for this? What happens to front loader then?
Alternatively, my other port can be one feeding backhoe, but controls would have to be added somehow.

Edit: upon further reading, I may need a 4 way control valve. Can I replace the grapple valve (2 way?) with a 4 way so I don't add another?

 

[CoyPatton]

Edit: upon further reading, I may need a 4 way control valve. Can I replace the grapple valve (2 way?) with a 4 way so I don't add another?

I am no hydraulics expert by any means. When someone says 4 way valve to me, I think of a loader joystick type valve. When what I think you would want would be a multi spool valve. You did specify, but I am guessing you current have a separate single spool valve for your grapple. If so you should be able to replace the single spool with a multiple spool valve and run additional lines for your remotes.
If you use a diverter valve for your grapple, I do not think you would be able to replace that for what I believe you want.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I simply can't stand this whatever "WAY" terminology. It is utterly meaningless. A switch, valve, or plug has four ports and they call it four way.

I am curious why a flail mower needs a remote. Sideshift???

 

[Komrade]

I am curious why a flail mower needs a remote. Sideshift???

Ditch mowers have
Sideshift and tilt to mow along stream/water banks.

 

[Komrade]

I am no hydraulics expert by any means. When someone says 4 way valve to me, I think of a loader joystick type valve. When what I think you would want would be a multi spool valve. You did specify, but I am guessing you current have a separate single spool valve for your grapple. If so you should be able to replace the single spool with a multiple spool valve and run additional lines for your remotes.
If you use a diverter valve for your grapple, I do not think you would be able to replace that for what I believe you want.

Looking at AGL145 description it says
57″ Standard Ditch Bank Flail Mower, FH-AGL145 - Betst Products

Connect it to our optional 4-way hydraulic control valve with a hydraulic float and the mulcher will follow the contours of the terrain

I thought it would be a joystic too, that's why I referenced loader control earlier (up/down, and tilt instead of roll)

I guess I should call the manufacturer, as I don't see this valve being sold on their site.

 

[Industrial Toys]

That's why I asked. I hsve a flail mower with no hydraulics and a ditch mower with a ton of hydraulics. But you said Flail Mower.

 

[ericm979]

You could use a loader valve or a valve with two double acting spools.

You may want one the loader valve or one of the spools to have a float position, so you can make the head angle cylinder float to let it follow the ground. Some ditch bank mowers have a mechanical way to allow some of that, and if yours has that it may be sufficient. Usually it's a slot or short arm that allows some up and down motion relative to the right side 3pt attachment point.

Do you have a mechanical valve that controls the grapple? In that case you can replace it with the new 2 spool valve and run a second set of rear remotes. If it's electric over hydraulic, you should keep that for the 3rd function and add the new valve.

 

[Komrade]

4 port is apparently a dealer provided piece of equipment for my Kubota L3430, and it's about 2000$.
Spoke to Bestco that recommended speaking to dealer..
I'll share details once I get a quote.

related:
https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...3488-remote-hydraulic-options-l4600-need.html

 

[ericm979]

A lot of people have not been happy with the Grand L valves.

If you can do some fab work for brackets you can make your own for a lot less. There's a lot of threads here where people have shown how they did theirs.

 

[metalbender]

I just put a splitter on the rear for my ditch bank mower. Simple switch for boom or swing, using the rear control lever. Have to disconnect the hoses leading to the front.

 

[Komrade]

If anybody is curious, or stumbles upon this thread, it took me a bit of research to confirm all the part #'s that I documented in detail here

Start with L8305 base kit (includes 1st lever), which must be paired with L8303 or L8304
Add L8306, which must be paired with L8303 or L8304 if you need 2nd lever
Add L8307, which must be paired with L8303 or L8304 if you need 3rd lever