Shotgun shells

[czechsonofagun]

Gimme a break. Now there's an interpretation that represents a stretch....no one has said anything about shotguns, which is the topic at hand.

Jay

Checht! You really think they will add tax to all ammo and skip shotgun shells?
Let me tell you from my experience when the government really starts regulating, they will not stop at all

 

[CrazyQ]

I agree , and if you feel the need to kill something , theres plenty of feral cats , dogs , goats , foxes and pigs that are destroying the enviroment to shoot at . My heart sinks when i see a picture of a hunter with a high powered rifle and a scope with his foot on a deer or a bear etc .

Two words...Wildlife Management. Over populated deer herds can raise havoc. Not to mention increased disease and ticks. Perhaps someone from PA would like to weigh in on the overpopulation of deer and the high cost it causes on the highways down there.

 

[jaybrad]

Two words...Wildlife Management. Over populated deer herds can raise havoc. Not to mention increased disease and ticks. Perhaps someone from PA would like to weigh in on the overpopulation of deer and the high cost it causes on the highways down there.

Roger that.

I took a little July motorcycle trip from Maine to NC a few years ago, and I have never seen so many deer carcasses, or parts thereof, in my life. I was told that the cost to pick them up is very expensive, which is why it may be days before that happens.

One particularly memorable part was being stuck on the Interstate (don't remember which one) on a nice hot day, and slowly approaching a very bloated, and very fragrant, road kill. It was the perfect companion to baking on an air cooled motorcycle.

Jay

 

[jaybrad]

Checht! You really think they will add tax to all ammo and skip shotgun shells?
Let me tell you from my experience when the government really starts regulating, they will not stop at all

No argument on the latter, but from what I've seen and heard, the discussion from the incoming administration on guns has been more in the assault and handgun categories than in the sporting arena. Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition Team

Jay
(watching and reading with NRA card in hand)

 

[Flatheadyoungin]

that is the slippery slope that we get on......most times, once regulation, of any sort, is implemented, you never go back the other way.......

and, i don't own an assault weapon........, i consider shooting my handgun and "assault" rifle a sport.......i'm serious.....

they'll be saving the children or "common sense" measures........the last assault weapons ban did nothing......it was a feel good pc. of legislation that did nothing to deter crime nor punish criminals before or after the fact.....

i think he's smart enough to not even come close to taking away any sportsmen guns........that's hurts 100% of people that own guns.......the other is a smaller % of people that feel that if their hunting rights are left alone, they don't care about the other guns......

anyone want to talk some religion? how about other politics? what other hot button issues?

i think it's signs of our economy, it seems, almost, that many of the threads, lately, have turned in to a debate...hahaha.......

"I like box-blades!" "Well, scraper blades are better........" "The government should give tax incentives to those that buy box-blades" "I was at church on Sunday and the pastor said box-blades are an abomination of God and that we should boycott them...."

 

[Flatheadyoungin]

ah, crap! I said i'd give you the last word

i've gotten this thread mixed up with the other gun one that is coming to the top a lot.....

oh well, you started it

 

[jaybrad]

i think it's signs of our economy, it seems, almost, that many of the threads, lately, have turned in to a debate...hahaha.......

"I like box-blades!" "Well, scraper blades are better........" "The government should give tax incentives to those that buy box-blades" "I was at church on Sunday and the pastor said box-blades are an abomination of God and that we should boycott them...."

That's interesting, because I was in church Sunday, and our pastor said that tractors were intended to have rear mount snowblowers in the winter and that those who think otherwise are lost souls in need of help.

I think he also said something about the special advantages of red tractors, too.

 

[jaybrad]

ah, crap! I said i'd give you the last word

i've gotten this thread mixed up with the other gun one that is coming to the top a lot.....

oh well, you started it

Must be the weather (lack of snow in my case) because I've seen similar threads and positions in many other forums.

Looking forward to stories and pictures of winter fun!

Jay
(now sitting on my hands....sort of)

 

[wushaw]

that is the slippery slope that we get on......most times, once regulation, of any sort, is implemented, you never go back the other way.......

and, i don't own an assault weapon........, i consider shooting my handgun and "assault" rifle a sport.......i'm serious.....

they'll be saving the children or "common sense" measures........the last assault weapons ban did nothing......it was a feel good pc. of legislation that did nothing to deter crime nor punish criminals before or after the fact.....

i think he's smart enough to not even come close to taking away any sportsmen guns........that's hurts 100% of people that own guns.......the other is a smaller % of people that feel that if their hunting rights are left alone, they don't care about the other guns......

anyone want to talk some religion? how about other politics? what other hot button issues?

i think it's signs of our economy, it seems, almost, that many of the threads, lately, have turned in to a debate...hahaha.......

"I like box-blades!" "Well, scraper blades are better........" "The government should give tax incentives to those that buy box-blades" "I was at church on Sunday and the pastor said box-blades are an abomination of God and that we should boycott them...."

What is a sportsman gun?

 

[EarPlug]

No argument on the latter, but from what I've seen and heard, the discussion from the incoming administration on guns has been more in the assault and handgun categories than in the sporting arena. Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition Team

Jay
(watching and reading with NRA card in hand)

Time to tell the Truth about "Assault Weapons"

from NSSF: Aiming for Accuracy by Ted Novin
It seems as though everywhere we turn there are new reports and stories about so-called "assault- weapons."?? Last week the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence released a report on "assault weapons," while just yesterday the Orlando Sentinel published a special report declaring, "AK-47s, other military-style assault weapons and expensive handguns have become so common that cops across the state routinely encounter suspects equipped for urban warfare, complete with 75-shot magazines and bulletproof vests."
We all know this is just one example where the mainstream media is spreading misleading information about "assault weapons" that feeds the public's fear and confusion over what these everyday firearms are -- or more aptly, are not.?? So, let's clear this up right now:
So-called "assault weapons" are not "machine guns" and do not "spray" bullets as is so often alleged.?? Machine guns have been heavily regulated and virtually banned since the 1934 National Firearms Act.?? "Assault weapons" are simply semi-automatic firearms that function no differently than any other semi-automatic firearm (only one shot is fired when the trigger is pulled).?? These guns have been legally owned and lawfully used by civilians for over a century for target shooting, hunting, self protection and collecting.?? Politicians, however, have sought to ban semi-automatic firearms as "assault weapons" based on cosmetic features that have nothing to do with the way the firearm functions.?? That is like banning a car based on its hood ornament.
It's also important to note that federal studies, including a 2003 study by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), prove the "assault weapons" ban did nothing to reduce crime. This study, by a government agency that could hardly be considered pro-gun, hasn't stopped groups like the Brady Campaign and misinformed members of the media from misleading Americans into thinking the law was effective.
Both the Brady study and the Sentinel article point to a decline in the percentage of "assault weapons" traced by ATF in the years after the ban went into effect.?? Here's what they didn't tell you:
The number of "assault weapons" traced stayed relatively the same and it was only the number of total traces which increased dramatically (as ATF began encouraging "comprehensive tracing" or tracing of all guns that come in possession of law enforcement). So the decrease in percentage of "assault weapon" traces may be correct, but that does NOT mean that the actual number of "assault weapon" traces decreased -- a fact that should be of no surprise to anyone given the understanding that "assault weapons" are rarely used in crimes.
The gun-ban lobby understands that the confusion over what is and what is not an "assault weapon" only benefits them.?? This desire, when coupled with the mainstream media need for sensationalized stories, not only hurts industry and gun-owners, but also anyone looking for a straight answer on the subject.
We leave you with this quote from Josh Sugarmann of the Violence Policy Center: "The public's confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons--anything that looks like a machine gun is presumed to be a machine gun--can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons."