Mowing Looks like a Slope Mower.

   / Looks like a Slope Mower. #21  
Well, I just got off the phone with Chris at Power-Trac. He was very helpful with recommending a machine. The 1845 is the closest machine to our needs he told me. He also told me that if we go down there that they'll let us try a machine and do whatever! Mow, brushcut and other stuff. I wasn't really to keen to the idea of going all the way down to Tazewell. Remember, I live in Michigan. But now I think it'd be a good idea.

Also, the Lastec deck for the 1845 was discontinued because lack of sales.

If I were you, I would look for a friend that had a PT, or ask someone that has a PT to go with you to Tazwell, and give the machine a through testing. Being new to this machine, you will not know all the little details to do a good test. A good salesman can sell you anything, and you might not even know what you purchased. Read their guarantee throughly and ask lots of questions. You might even use one of those MP3 recorders to record things that were said but not true. In some states you have to tell the other person that you are recording. I am assuming that you have read most of the PT postings. Do your best to make them give you a complete parts manual, hydraulics schematic, electrical diagrams, and technical manual, stickily for your machine, if such a thing exist, in your hand before you write the check. You do know they have a no return, tough sh** policy. If I were closer, I would love to go and assist you in your endeavor. Stock up on extra parts while you are there.
 
   / Looks like a Slope Mower. #22  
Lastec makes a PTO driven contour push mower. It requires 35 PTO HP. I don't think it would be too difficult to adapt one to a big Power Trac. The machine would have to have enough PTO power. It would probably require the 1850 to get there, but I haven't done any calculations, so that is a bit of a guess.
 
   / Looks like a Slope Mower. #23  
Lastec makes a PTO driven contour push mower. It requires 35 PTO HP. I don't think it would be too difficult to adapt one to a big Power Trac. The machine would have to have enough PTO power. It would probably require the 1850 to get there, but I haven't done any calculations, so that is a bit of a guess.

That deck is wider than any PT offers (100" vs 90") and is also pushing (or exceeds) the lift weight for the slope tractors. While the rated lift of the slope tractors is 1200 and the linked Lastec deck is 1065 the requirement to put the deck out front--effectively on a lever arm--raises a question whether the PT could lift it. The Lastec deck I have is 72" and is a modified rear finish mower.

I also have doubts that the 1850 could provide 35 hp to the mower given the losses inherent with hydraulic systems--there is only 60 or 65 gross hp available.
 
   / Looks like a Slope Mower. #24  
That deck is wider than any PT offers (100" vs 90") and is also pushing (or exceeds) the lift weight for the slope tractors. While the rated lift of the slope tractors is 1200 and the linked Lastec deck is 1065 the requirement to put the deck out front--effectively on a lever arm--raises a question whether the PT could lift it. The Lastec deck I have is 72" and is a modified rear finish mower.

I also have doubts that the 1850 could provide 35 hp to the mower given the losses inherent with hydraulic systems--there is only 60 or 65 gross hp available.

If you have 60 HP, the efficiency of 80% leaves 48 HP to the pump, and then you have to steer and drive the machine. You will also have a loss from the PTO pump to implement motor.
 
   / Looks like a Slope Mower. #25  
If I were you, I would look for a friend that had a PT, or ask someone that has a PT to go with you to Tazwell, and give the machine a through testing. Being new to this machine, you will not know all the little details to do a good test. A good salesman can sell you anything, and you might not even know what you purchased. Read their guarantee throughly and ask lots of questions. You might even use one of those MP3 recorders to record things that were said but not true. In some states you have to tell the other person that you are recording. I am assuming that you have read most of the PT postings. Do your best to make them give you a complete parts manual, hydraulics schematic, electrical diagrams, and technical manual, stickily for your machine, if such a thing exist, in your hand before you write the check. You do know they have a no return, tough sh** policy. If I were closer, I would love to go and assist you in your endeavor. Stock up on extra parts while you are there.

Good advice above. I also suggest that you use the actual machine that you are purchasing to do the test operation. Not one just like it, but the actual machine. That way they can fix any problems before you get it, and worst case you can say no way. Put a least a couple of hours on the machine even if it's just to drive it around their lot. They do have dirt or gravel to move and other test areas.
 
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#27  
I saw in the Used PT section that there is a 72" Mower modified to fit on a 1460 and comes with a T12 attachment plate for $1,900. Would this mower work on a 1845 or 1850?
With this being a more expensive machine (if we buy new) we're going to cut a few corners with the attachments. Find out which we'd really need and go from there.
 
   / Looks like a Slope Mower. #28  
You generally want a mower that is as wide as your wheels. the 1850 is 90" wide so I don't think a 70" would do you much good.

Ksimolo may have a spare mower...
 
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#29  
You generally want a mower that is as wide as your wheels. the 1850 is 90" wide so I don't think a 70" would do you much good.

Ksimolo may have a spare mower...
The 1845 is more than likely the machine for use so it'd be used on that. An 1845 is only 69" wide so a 72" mower would work. But what hydraulic flow does the 1845 have?
 
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#30  
If it makes any sense to come here, I am in the finger lakes region of New York State and have a PT1850.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/power-trac/137323-powertrac-owners-state-13-dated.html

I see one in Wisconsin.

Better yet, there is one in Hawaii :)

Ken

PS Bought my PT without ever having seen any PT but not something I normally recommend for most people. But I read this whole forum before buying it.
Hawaii. Now there's a good place to run an 1850. Lots of hills and brush.
 

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