John Deere Over-Rated?

[tjkadar]

Nothing self-serving or non-biased in that response. Daedong must be some kind of threat; you keep defending against them.

On the lift capacity. Hard to deny when comparing identical lift specs. Regardless of how you paint it deere, NH and bota don't have a tractor in the size/class of a CK20 that will lift as much. It burns in their crawl, I think.

I just took a quick glance at the JD 2320 specs... It is a bit down on lift capacity at full height, but up on boom breakout force, bucket rollback force, loader lower, and bucket dump specs. I'm sure NH and Kubota have some favorable numbers on their tractors too.

People buy tractors for different reasons. The criteria they set as important to them might not be important to someone else. That is why people buy different makes, brands, attachments, etc., etc.

Every manufacturer has produced some dogs. Most manufacturers have produced some gems.

If you want to buy John Deere, but it. If you don't, don't. Nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head. Myself, I think John Deere stock might be the best bet out there.

 

[RollingsFarms]

I just took a quick glance at the JD 2320 specs... It is a bit down on lift capacity at full height, but up on boom breakout force, bucket rollback force, loader lower, and bucket dump specs. I'm sure NH and Kubota have some favorable numbers on their tractors too.

People buy tractors for different reasons. The criteria they set as important to them might not be important to someone else. That is why people buy different makes, brands, attachments, etc., etc.

Every manufacturer has produced some dogs. Most manufacturers have produced some gems.

If you want to buy John Deere, but it. If you don't, don't. Nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head. Myself, I think John Deere stock might be the best bet out there.

it will be this week as i'm going to spend a big chunk of change at the JD dealership. so if you have JD stock get ready to smile, or if you don't have any, i'd suggest you buy some.haha will be buying a disk, 2 sets of wheel weights, rear work light, 4 suitcase weights, front mounting bracket, grill guard. this is gonna hurt the wallet

 

[tjkadar]

it will be this week as i'm going to spend a big chunk of change at the JD dealership. so if you have JD stock get ready to smile, or if you don't have any, i'd suggest you buy some.haha will be buying a disk, 2 sets of wheel weights, rear work light, 4 suitcase weights, front mounting bracket, grill guard. this is gonna hurt the wallet

What size disk are you getting?

 

[nunyabinis]

I just searched for dealers on the Kioti website and the nearest to me is 78 miles.



I did the same search on the Deere website and there are 19 dealers within the same distance.


Not a deal breaker but certainly a huge factor.

 

[RollingsFarms]

What size disk are you getting?

6'. not sure of the brand yet. it's going to either be a leinbach or a tuffline. i'm worried with my frequent use that the leinbach might not hold up, but i don't like the design of the tuffline as it offers no support towards the front where most of the pressure is.

 

[tjkadar]

I have an old Massy Ferguson disc that is a bit too small for my 5425. I think, but can't swear to it, that it is a 7' disc. Pretty darned heavy too. Bearing are frozen in the front left hand gang - other than that I believe it is very servicable.

You're welcome to take a look at her or I can snap you some pictures.

I looked at a 12' disc in Bishopville the other day. I think, if I remember correctly, they wanted $7,000 for it! Ouch!

 

[Gittyup]

I just took a quick glance at the JD 2320 specs... It is a bit down on lift capacity at full height, but up on boom breakout force, bucket rollback force, loader lower, and bucket dump specs. I'm sure NH and Kubota have some favorable numbers on their tractors too.

People buy tractors for different reasons. The criteria they set as important to them might not be important to someone else. That is why people buy different makes, brands, attachments, etc., etc.

Every manufacturer has produced some dogs. Most manufacturers have produced some gems.

If you want to buy John Deere, but it. If you don't, don't. Nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head. Myself, I think John Deere stock might be the best bet out there.

Splitting hairs a bit, but the 2320 more appropriately compares in size to the CK25, and is like $7000 more than a CK20 (that's like 70% more money). As I said, deere don't have one like it. And I'm not biased. I love deere. I own one. But they don't have anything like the CK20. It's just not in their product mix. They hit in size above and below it. Same for the other guys too.

 

[98ramtough]

I laugh reading some of this thread. I owned a Kubota and loved it. It was solid and never had a lick of problems. I just bought a 2305 JD and LOVE it as well. For me, I can't compare the 2nd tier tractors to Kubota or JD. Price wise, New Holland was as high as JD or Kubota. JD service wise around here is king, so I leaned more towards JD. Comparing JD quailty to Kioti seems foolish though. I just don't like the looks of Kioti either. No offense to everyone here that has them. They just look like a cheap gray tractor to me.

 

[tjkadar]

I laugh reading some of this thread. I owned a Kubota and loved it. It was solid and never had a lick of problems. I just bought a 2305 JD and LOVE it as well. For me, I can't compare the 2nd tier tractors to Kubota or JD. Price wise, New Holland was as high as JD or Kubota. JD service wise around here is king, so I leaned more towards JD. Comparing JD quailty to Kioti seems foolish though. I just don't like the looks of Kioti either. No offense to everyone here that has them. They just look like a cheap gray tractor to me.

But the CK20 is better than all the rest! (please not that there is no direct competitor for the CK20 though)

 

[LBrown59]

No : All the others are underated.