Backhoe 3Pt log splitter off backhoe lines

   / 3Pt log splitter off backhoe lines #11  
I've done this successfully with a RamSplitter on my 24...after lurking on the TBN "Hydraulic" forum for a long time, guidance from members with lots of hydraulic experience, and the WSM to understand my hydraulic system. When the BH is removed from a 24, the pressure-in line is connected to the PB line and the tank line is capped. To use this PB path for a splitter, connect the pressure-in to the splitter inlet, and the splitter outlet to the PB. This maintains the integrity of the PB...BUT, there is a caveat. Since most splitter valves are intended to operate standalone, they expect pump pressure on the inlet side, but not on the outlet (tank) side. If you use a PB circuit to plumb your splitter, you need to know the splitter valve's max allowable outlet side pressure (mine is 500psi). If your splitter's outlet side can't handle your pump pressure, the splitter valve can be damaged when a downstream hydraulic function is activated. But, all is not lost. On a 24 (for example), the FEL is downstream from the BH (splitter). I can't use the FEL. Before, after, or in a pinch...temporarily removing the splitter from the PB circuit...but not with the splitter connected hydraulically.
 
   / 3Pt log splitter off backhoe lines #12  
I am trying to understand my system as well since I have BX24 too.

When the BH is removed from a 24, the pressure-in line is connected to the PB line and the tank line is capped. To use this PB path for a splitter, connect the pressure-in to the splitter inlet, and the splitter outlet to the PB.
You mean the hose loop side is PB out ?

This maintains the integrity of the PB...BUT, there is a caveat. Since most splitter valves are intended to operate standalone, they expect pump pressure on the inlet side, but not on the outlet (tank) side.
I thought if open center valve is used, and using the PB connection only the 3pt hitch and FEL will still work?
If you use a PB circuit to plumb your splitter, you need to know the splitter valve's max allowable outlet side pressure (mine is 500psi).
What does the WSM say for pressure for PB in?
On a 24 (for example), the FEL is downstream from the BH (splitter). I can't use the FEL. Before, after, or in a pinch...temporarily removing the splitter from the PB circuit...but not with the splitter connected hydraulically.

wouldn't the OC valve solve this issue ? I am thinking that since the PB hose have nothing in between the in and out PB a open center valve is the same thing?
 
   / 3Pt log splitter off backhoe lines #13  
Many thankis for this discussion. I just ordered a Harbor Freight 3-point splitter today ($400 after the 20% off coupon!) and am looking forward to taking care of the rest of my woodpile!
 
   / 3Pt log splitter off backhoe lines #14  
Many thankis for this discussion. I just ordered a Harbor Freight 3-point splitter today ($400 after the 20% off coupon!) and am looking forward to taking care of the rest of my woodpile!
Where did you get the coupon from? Was it valid for in-store purchases? I was going to order one from the local store to save on shipping. An additional 20% off would be great!
 
   / 3Pt log splitter off backhoe lines #15  
I am trying to understand my system as well since I have BX24 too.


You mean the hose loop side is PB out ?


I thought if open center valve is used, and using the PB connection only the 3pt hitch and FEL will still work?

What does the WSM say for pressure for PB in?


wouldn't the OC valve solve this issue ? I am thinking that since the PB hose have nothing in between the in and out PB a open center valve is the same thing?

Sorry for response delay...haven't been on TBN for a few days.

Q1: "Hose" side is from pump. Steel side is PB to FEL, then 3PT.

Q2: Everything downstream will work, the issue is whether splitter valve outlet side is rated to pump relief pressure. Splitters are not intended to be part of tractor's PB circuit...they simply return fluid to tank, using valve with a low pressure outlet side.

Q3: PB operates at pump pressure, up to relief setting.

Q4: Splitter valves are open center...when in neutral, they pass fluid (to tank) rather than interrupting flow.
 
   / 3Pt log splitter off backhoe lines #16  
I bought the Harbor Freight log splitter this week and will attempt to hook it up this weekend. The splitter control valve has an inlet port and outlet port. Are the hydraulic supply lines for my backhoe marked for outlet and inlet? (My tractor is 25 miles away otherwise I would look right now).
 
   / 3Pt log splitter off backhoe lines #17  
I doubt it- but I am not familar with the L series. Also I am not expert in hydraulics but I am in the learning stage right now. It seems that most of kubota models with BH have power beyond so you should have 3 hookups ports. IF you have power beyond on tractor and the HF splitter has a open center valve, you can put the splitter on the power beyond ports. The other port is another return to tank on tractor and not needed, but keep in mind with this setup you may lose the 3point hitch function to lift. just undo the hoses and you wil return the hyraulic flow to 3 pt.
 
   / 3Pt log splitter off backhoe lines #18  
RobA,

My HF Splitter has not arrived yet so I have to live through you for now!

Post Pictures when you can!

Radioman,

I am a bit worried now from what you are saying. All I was going to do is hook up the Splitter to my B2920 inlet and outlet BH ports. From what I think I am reading here the usage of my 3 PT lift maybe questionable....I was hoping to drop the splitter on the ground to pick up the larger pieces :confused:.
 
   / 3Pt log splitter off backhoe lines #19  
...I was hoping to drop the splitter on the ground to pick up the larger pieces :confused:.

For manageable logs, I position splitter at comfortable height, then hook it up. For large logs, I drop it to ground and leave it there...often, initial splits are still too heavy to manage.
 
   / 3Pt log splitter off backhoe lines #20  
...you may lose the 3point hitch function to lift. just undo the hoses and you wil return the hyraulic flow to 3 pt.

You shouldn't "lose" it. If it's downstream in the PB circuit, you may not want to use it with splitter hooked up. Whenever an implement in the PB circuit is activated, everything upstream is subjected to pump pressure. The issue is whether the outlet side of the splitter valve can handle that pressure...
 

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