What type of fuel caddy?

[WilliamBos]

Any Particular type of plastic drum?

1*Thanks.
2*It's not really about volume of fuel so much as it's about convience and ease of use .
3*But still not as good as building your own rig offering more features/benefits for about the same or less money.
4*Just the fuel at the moment.
5*Yep really nice.

6*If you are considering a caddy your are justifing building your own rig.
7*I can use it to fill my tractor from 5 gallon cans.
That's the beauty of my set up of and just one of its uneque features.
8*You will Probably have more money in it than building it your self and it likely will have fewer features.

9*Thanks ,but its not about how many or what size tractor.
The subject is which is better buying a Caddy or building your own rig.
I did a lot of reasearch and comparing before I built my system and building my own beat a caddy 7 ways from sunday.
10*I eliminated that concern by putting the system in its own small storage building well away from the house garage and other buildings.
As far as leaks and fires people storing cans of gasoline in homes garages and basements scare the dickens out of me compared to worrying about a little old diesel storage rig.
11*What is FM?
I don't need OSHA approval since I am not an employer.
12*With the reg in the small building the loss would be very minimal.
I think perventing the house from burning down is much prefered over trying to battle the insurance co over paying for it if it does happen .
13*I don't see that as any problem.
14*My first rig was 30 gallon.
The 2nd one is 55gallon
I do not consider anything under 100 gallons as storing a large volume of fuel.
15*I don't think those aprovals are required.
16*I do know my drums are the same materal as the 5 gallon cans.
Good for any climate/temperature I think.

18*Then why are you thinking about a caddy?
You can still set up your own rig by using a 15 gallon drum or even just a couple of 5 gallon cans and pump the fuel out of that to fill your tractor.

 

[MF RED in MT]

LB,
I guess a OSHA approval would pertain only to employers, which I am not. Living near a National Forest is a problem if you cause a fire that burns this forest, I cannot afford to pay for putting a fire like that out. I think I wil check with my homeowners insurance in regards to these approvals? Check this webiste for information about these approvals:

Fuel Chief Gas Caddy Safety Guide

I would like a 25 to 30 gallon gas caddy so I don't have to lift to fill my tractor and can wheel it around in the garage. I also don't want to go to the gas station every week or two for fuel. I can set up a Mechanical advantage pulley rope system in my garage to load and unload the caddy, or maybe some ramps might be better? Filling it at the gas station in the back of the vehicle could be a problem, but I think it would be safe by attaching the grounding cable to the pump handle? If not, I could get a couple of guys to help me at the gas station to reload the full caddy in the back of my truck (30 gallon full caddy is 315 lbs).

I know I could build one that would be great like yours, but I need to check if not having these approval can be a problem? KC

 

[LBrown59]

LB,
I guess a OSHA approval would pertain only to employers, which I am not.
Living near a National Forest is a problem if you cause a fire that burns this forest, I cannot afford to pay for putting a fire like that out. I think I wil check with my homeowners insurance in regards to these approvals? 1*Check this webiste for information about these approvals:Fuel Chief Gas Caddy Safety Guide
2*I would like a 25 to 30 gallon gas caddy so I don't have to lift to fill my tractor and can wheel it around in the garage.
3*I also don't want to go to the gas station every week or two for fuel.
4*I can set up a Mechanical advantage pulley rope system in my garage to load and unload the caddy, or maybe some ramps might be better?
5*Filling it at the gas station in the back of the vehicle could be a problem, but I think it would be safe by attaching the grounding cable to the pump handle?
6*If not, I could get a couple of guys to help me at the gas station to reload the full caddy in the back of my truck (30 gallon full caddy is 315 lbs).
7*I know I could build one that would be great like yours, but I need to check if not having these approval can be a problem? KC

1*This don't even apply to a homeowner wanting to store a few gallon of diesel at home.
They are talking about a comercial auto repair operation and gasoline not diesel fuel.
I don't see where such approvals are required so not having them I don't see as a problem.
2*You can build your own using a 15 30 or 55 gallon drum made out of the same material as the 5 gallon plastic cans.
There is no difference in the safety factor between the same volume of diesel fuel stored in 5 gallon cans V S in a drum.
In other words 20 gallon stored in 4 5 gallon cans is no safer to store then 20 gallon in one drum.
3*I love the fact that I get free delivery.
4*Both of the systems I built are self unloading so nothing like this is needed.
5*That's more of an issue with gasoline than it is a concern with diesel.
6*I don't thank that will be nessary .
You should try your best to get home delivery of off road non taxed fuel.
It is really great and eliminates a lot of concerns.
7*Why would you need to be approved as an auto repair shop when you aren't in that business?

 

[LBrown59]

I think I wil check with my homeowners insurance in regards to these approvals? Check this webiste for information about these approvals:Fuel Chief Gas Caddy Safety Guide

I would like a 25 to 30 gallon gas caddy so I don't have to lift to fill my tractor and can wheel it around in the garage.

I know I could build one that would be great like yours, but I need to check if not having these approval can be a problem? KC

I think perhaps you're somewhat overly concerned about this .
There are people all across the country who heat their homes with the same fuel you use in your tractor without having or needing to deal with any of the issues you are concerned about.
Here is a note about one such system .
TractorByNet.com - View Single Post - Fueling Station .
These systems are anywhere from 150 to 300 gallon in most case so storing 10 to 100 gallon is a cake walk by comparison.

My logic is if storing 150 to 300 gallon is no big deal then why get all shook up about 25 or 30 gallon???

 

[WilliamBos]

I think perhaps you're somewhat overly concerned about this .
There are people all across the country who heat their homes with the same fuel you use in your tractor without having or needing to deal with any of the issues you are concerned about.
Here is a note about one such system .
TractorByNet.com - View Single Post - Fueling Station .
These systems are anywhere from 150 to 300 gallon in most case so storing 10 to 100 gallon is a cake walk by comparison.

My logic is if storing 150 to 300 gallon is no big deal then why get all shook up about 25 or 30 gallon???

It is better for him to check and be corrected, that to not check and be wrong, and heaven forbid something happened and did not get paid because of something, isn't it??

 

[kenstrac]

I would not use ANYTHING that is not approved for the purpose it was designed for oil tanks have an approval tag plastic gas and diesel 5 gal tanks have approvals on them this is to protect you.
Lets say I have 100 gals of diesel in a building and it catches on fire,firemen start fighting what they think is just a shed.the tank ruptures and 100 gals of diesel comes rolling out at them BECAUSE there is no dike to contain the liquid.now you have a potential of harming the people that responded to the fire and 100 gals of fuel in and on the ground.Next the insurance investigator shows up with the fire marshal and then the ask where is the dike and the placards where did you get the tank,Oh I got it from from the Laundromat whats your recourse now after they give you a bill for $200.000 for cleanup.
And what if the tank just fails is the guy at the laundromat or the soap mfg going to pay for the cleanup,thats why tanks are EXPENSIVE product liability ins.
You might see some pic's of someones tanks on here but there are allot of violations there, I'm sure the insurance co would have firm ground to not pay the claim with those pic's in court if anything happened.

 

[markct]

i made my diesel fuel tank from an old 120 gallon propane tank, i layed it on its side and removed the valve and plugged it, then removed the collars top and bottom and welded 3 tank fittings, 2inch pipe thread, into the side, well now its the top. i mounted the whole setup on an axle so i can tow it around the yard to fuel the dozer etc, or the house or shop furnace should we run low on oil. it made a good tank and alot cheaper than a 100 gal skid tank cost. being that a propane tank is a great deal thicker and made to take alot more pressure i dont see what would be so unsafe about it, the tank sides are 1/4 inch thick, most diesel tanks are 12 gauge or lighter so its overkill for diesel storage. works well with a hand pump and filter mounted in the top

 

[CurlyDave]

I sure wish I could get enough seat time to justify a gas caddy.

I make do with the 5 gallon containers. Lifting them is not easy, but if I keep one extra one around, I can pour half of a full one into the extra, and only have to deal with lifting 2.5 gallons, which is much easier and more controllable. Haven't spilled any in a long time.

 

[LBrown59]

1*I sure wish I could get enough seat time to justify a gas caddy.
2*I make do with the 5 gallon containers.

1*Ease and convience not volume of fuel justify having your own system.
2*Both the rigs I built will pump fuel from a 5 gallon can.

 

[LBrown59]

*It is better for him to check and be corrected, that to not check and be wrong, and heaven forbid something happened and did not get paid because of something, isn't it??

* But as I pointed out he is concerning himself with regulations that apply to an automotive repair shop instead of himself.