MossRoad
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Lets put one wheel on a magic treadmill and see if the split brakes work! 
Hydro's and brake pedals
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patrick_g
Elite Member
Partly explains why it is so easy for you to keep getting your foot in your mouth!
I couldn't help it... the devil made me do it.
Pat
Egon
Epic Contributor
OK OK but the problem may be that I never manage to get my feet out of my Mouth.
Now the question is: Do I have a big Mouth or do I have Small Feet and how do we determine what big is and what small is??
Isn't it time to feed cows??
patrick_g
Elite Member
You still didn't explain how it is, in your own words, . Let's face it Patrick. It is not a great placement. It is a sucky placement with a capital S.
True... if and only if you use the brakes as cutting brakes which many many of us don't. For those of us trained to use the right foot for brakes most of the time (assuming more operating hours with cars than tractors) a brake on the right just seems natural.
For HST users (especially Kubota) if you take your foot off the HST pedal you decelerate quite quickly. If in mid or low range then you decelerate so quickly you may not be able to get your foot on the brake before you are stopped or very nearly so. As a result you hardly need the brake pedal at all except for parking brake action. I may go for weeks of usage and only use the brakes for setting the parking brake function not decelerating. Once in a while I may do something on a hill and need to use the brakes.
I have absolutely no interest whatsoever in "converting" anyone to Kubotaism but for Pete's sake, if people are happy with their brakes on the same side as the HST, let them be happy. How are any of the avid cutting brake users harmed by the mere fact that there are folks out there who don't care to participate. It is not a matter of ignorance is bliss. Some folks just don't do what others do and that shouldn't stir up those others into some religious zeal frenzy to ensure lock step compliance with the others perception of the one true and holy path to tractoring nirvana.
Oops, I gotta go or I will be late to the afternoon Kubotaism incense burning and mantra chanting service.
Patrick
JB4310
Super Member
Umm, Let's not forget this thread was started by a Kub owner who was less than satisfied with their peddle configuration, is in the market for a new machine and sounds like he may be changing brands because of it.
Not started by a bunch of Goose stepping followers that are trying to convert others to buy their brand. Just replies from owners who have stated that it's an important enough feature to them that it affected their buying decision.
I personally don't want everyone going out to buy my brand, that would drive the prices up. I'm glad there is such a market for those one leggers.
JB.
patrick_g
Elite Member
I have great respect for the OP and his motivation for change. My remarks were not intended for him which I thought should be more than casually obvious. I don't think I'm the only one who felt "preached at" or pigeon holed as a Kubotaite and therefore obviously in need of parental guidance.
There is a good reason there are different styles of operator interfaces and multiple brands of successful tractors and that is due to differences in desire and need whether real or imagined on the part of the buyers. One size does not fit all. You may note that I am not trying to convince anyone to do it like me only that I do what I do on purpose with full knowledge of the other choices.
Patrick
buck12
Veteran Member
I have a question for hydro tractor owners with the hydro pedals and brake pedal(s) located on the same side. With a hydro tractor if you stop on hill do you have to use the brake(s) to keep the tractor from moving. I ask because I only have experience on gear tractors however I have operated several hydro lawnmowers and the brake is required to hold a hill and the problem with brakes and hydro on the same side is that the operator has to use their toe to hold/release the brake while using their heal to operate the appropriate hydro pedal. My questions is are hydro tractors different than hydro mowers in that will the tractor hold a hill without use of the brake?
chevyman29
Silver Member
i made the kubotiat comment . it was me . if everyone had your attitude patrick this tread would have died long ago . unfortunatly theres plenty of folks that came in and totally slamed the idea of turn brakes as being obselete . or not needed or they would destroy your tractor or ............. you get the point. im ok with people not using turn brakes just dont be telling me im crazy for needing and using mine . i think we can all agree that if you plane on using them they should be on the left.
patrick_g
Elite Member
Which part of my attitude bothers you the part where I like my tractor and the HST and brakes on the same side don't bother me, the part where I allow as to how everyone should be free to choose what they want and use it anyway they want. or what?
Patrick
JB4310
Super Member
They creep a little, but not a big problem if you don't have a big huge load, should have no problem going from brake to treadle or vice versa.
It's really an issue for the guys who are working hard on slopes, maybe with ground engagement implements. Not myself but I believe them when they say it's a matter of do or die, needing both feet to control the machine, and I mean both feet in a balanced stance on the platform (not both on one side). one on the hydro and one on the/a brake.
JB.
