Digging in a power Line.

   / Digging in a power Line. #31  
   / Digging in a power Line. #32  
I picked up mine from Rick for about $60 each (don't hold me or Rick to the price but thereabouts)- well worthwhile. I tried angle irons etc to no avail. Go during Rick's owner appreciation day and you can get food and drink for no additional fee.
 
   / Digging in a power Line. #33  
You don't happen to have a picture of the cleats you made for your outrigger feet kicking around some where ?
I think I'm going to build a set.
Thanks
The Fox

I'll try to take a few photos for you tonight.
 
   / Digging in a power Line. #34  
Here's my freebie feet.
 

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   / Digging in a power Line.
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#35  
Here's my freebie feet.

I made up some angle Iron 8.5 long x 2inch and 3\8 thick and drilled the holes in the angle iron and bolted them on the pads with 1\2 inch bolts, I thought I'll try this little experiment to see if it will work.. I went back in the field and started pulling out trees and alders and that tractor never moved.
So I am quite happy with the way it worked. I would rather have the tractor move around a bit rather then put a lot of strain on the outriggers and bust something because I have it anchored so tight it couldn't move. I do seem to have a bad case of "Metal Sympathy".....
The Fox
 
   / Digging in a power Line. #36  
Thanks for Info, locally they want $69 each, would not mind seing pictures of the Fox setup. May also fabricate so more input equals better design.

Thanks Larry
 
   / Digging in a power Line. #37  
Some info you might can use.

Hyd pressure is based on pump design, and the load on the BH cylinders, and will determine the pressure, and if you are working the cylinders to the extreme and the reliefs are going off, and the engine is lugging, then you are using your max force, as allowed by the relief valves.. The increased rpm of the engine/pump will only allow you to work faster, by pumping more GPM's.

If you have the option, to adjust the relief pressure, you will get some more power.

A 3 in cyl, 1.5 in shaft, 2500 psi, force is 17,671 lbs. For every 100 psi increase, you gain 700 lbs of force. If you adjust pressure from 2500 to 3000, you gain 3500 lbs of force.

Your primary limitation will be your tractor hyd pump psi rating.
 
   / Digging in a power Line. #38  
I made up some angle Iron 8.5 long x 2inch and 3\8 thick and drilled the holes in the angle iron and bolted them on the pads with 1\2 inch bolts, I thought I'll try this little experiment to see if it will work.. I went back in the field and started pulling out trees and alders and that tractor never moved.
So I am quite happy with the way it worked. I would rather have the tractor move around a bit rather then put a lot of strain on the outriggers and bust something because I have it anchored so tight it couldn't move. I do seem to have a bad case of "Metal Sympathy".....
The Fox

I thought about using angle iron. But, the C-channel is probably a little stronger, and it's mostly one piece. Probably just like you, I used what I had sitting around. I might weld some teeth on to them for just a little more bite.
 
   / Digging in a power Line.
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#39  
I thought about using angle iron. But, the C-channel is probably a little stronger, and it's mostly one piece. Probably just like you, I used what I had sitting around. I might weld some teeth on to them for just a little more bite.

I was going to use channel Iron only I could not find any lying around cheap .. So I used Angle Iron and I am supprised at the differenence in the
way the tractor stays put. I was out digging today and I never had the tractor pulling me into the hole I was digging like before.
But yes by all means Channel Iron would be better for sure. Being a penisoner I have to conserve. LoL

Now I have a question : Where do I go and look for the pressure relief value on my CK 30 HST ( 2005 ) tractor for the backhoe pressure.?. I could probably find it if I was to go out and start looking but you guys could save me the time in looking for it. Can I set it a little higher then what it is set for now ? What is the Maximum you can set it too ?
The Fox.
 
   / Digging in a power Line. #40  
Make up a hyd test gage. Put a tee in the input hose to the FEL valve. Gage plugs into the tee, or plug the gage into one of the QD's.

You need to know what pressure your tractor is designed for. If your BH has a lower pressure than the tractor, then adjust it about 50 psi below the max pressure of the BH. Post a picture of the FEL valve, and the BH valve, front back and sides. It is possible that the one relief valve on the FEL could do all the relieving. If the BH pressure capability is equal to the tractor pressure, set the FEL relief valve about 50 psi below the hyd pump max pressure. Set the BH pressure the same as the FEL relief. That would be as close as you want to go.
 

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