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KeithInSpace
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To your initial question, the technical term I've seen used is "Limited Cat 1". It is a "Category 1" hitch in that it uses the full sized pins, connectors, lynch pins, and arms. A Category 0 hitch uses smaller mounting points. It is "Limited" because of its not spreading quite as much as, say, a B-series tractor and because it can't lift things quite as high.
As others have said, there are many different lines of "sub-compact" attachments from Woods, TSC, and LandPride, to name a few. You won't have any problem finding the properly sized attachments for your BX.
To your other question, that is a matter of what you're going to do with it.
If you are mowing your grass, moving mulch, moving dirt, and doing "normal" things with your tractor, you won't get much benefit from the slightly larger frame, slightly larger tires, and slightly higher capacities that a BX2360 offers.
If you plan on doing a bunch of tilling, buying a chipper, buying a PTO generator, attaching a Woods Backhoe, going through the woods, or otherwise have a deep desire for a little more horsepower, a little more ground clearence, or a little more length, then go ahead and get a BX2360.
The rule of thumb with these tractors is that you'll run out of traction before you run out of power. I do, however, have a neighbor that has an 1860 and when he saw my BX2230 (older generation akin to BX2360) with backhoe attached (making the BX24 it's closest relative), he immediately had buyers regret and wished he had made the bump to the larger tractor. And I have to say that I've NEVER regretted getting the larger of the BX line of machines...nor have I wished I had gotten the smaller.
That said, I have a close friend on 10 acres that has a BX1850 who is as happy as a clam. Has zero desire for more horsepower or size and his tractor does everything he wants it to do. The BX1860 is a very capable and desireable machine.
Clear as mud, but the real answer lies in what you want to use the machine for and how you feel about putting another $2k into the mix.
As others have said, there are many different lines of "sub-compact" attachments from Woods, TSC, and LandPride, to name a few. You won't have any problem finding the properly sized attachments for your BX.
To your other question, that is a matter of what you're going to do with it.
If you are mowing your grass, moving mulch, moving dirt, and doing "normal" things with your tractor, you won't get much benefit from the slightly larger frame, slightly larger tires, and slightly higher capacities that a BX2360 offers.
If you plan on doing a bunch of tilling, buying a chipper, buying a PTO generator, attaching a Woods Backhoe, going through the woods, or otherwise have a deep desire for a little more horsepower, a little more ground clearence, or a little more length, then go ahead and get a BX2360.
The rule of thumb with these tractors is that you'll run out of traction before you run out of power. I do, however, have a neighbor that has an 1860 and when he saw my BX2230 (older generation akin to BX2360) with backhoe attached (making the BX24 it's closest relative), he immediately had buyers regret and wished he had made the bump to the larger tractor. And I have to say that I've NEVER regretted getting the larger of the BX line of machines...nor have I wished I had gotten the smaller.
That said, I have a close friend on 10 acres that has a BX1850 who is as happy as a clam. Has zero desire for more horsepower or size and his tractor does everything he wants it to do. The BX1860 is a very capable and desireable machine.
Clear as mud, but the real answer lies in what you want to use the machine for and how you feel about putting another $2k into the mix.
KU Gator
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Given my about 1.5 years of tractor ownership, I have advanced my knowledge from knowing nothing to knowing next to nothing, take this for what it is worth. But God love any woman who wants more horsepower (actually my wife suggested we go with a B2920 over a 2620).
For doing things like moving dirt and snow using a FEL or rear blade, more power doesn't make that much difference. With these lightweight tractors, you run out of traction before HP. So within the same size and weight, the HP will only make a limited amount of difference. Where HP makes the difference is with the PTO, thus you can go with the bigger mower and handle a tiller or posthole digger easier because these are ran off the power take off. Also, I think you get a little bigger tires with the 2360. I would probably opt for the 2360 since if you do the 0% finance, it will be spread out and not adding that much.
For doing things like moving dirt and snow using a FEL or rear blade, more power doesn't make that much difference. With these lightweight tractors, you run out of traction before HP. So within the same size and weight, the HP will only make a limited amount of difference. Where HP makes the difference is with the PTO, thus you can go with the bigger mower and handle a tiller or posthole digger easier because these are ran off the power take off. Also, I think you get a little bigger tires with the 2360. I would probably opt for the 2360 since if you do the 0% finance, it will be spread out and not adding that much.
I just moved to my current place that has a little over 3 acres. It came with a little old MTD that was near the end of it's useful life. When we first put a contract on the house I started to look at the larger used box store tractors...the 54" cut Cubs and Deeres - (1.5 - 2k). Then I figured I should get a new one (2.5 - 3k).
My brother bought a new x300 and I guess he was telling the sales guy about my new place and they tried to talk me into a new x500 (5.5k). I figured for just 2-3k more than the x500 I could get a used BX that would do a lot more (7 - 9k). I called about, replied to ads, looked a lot of places and I was not having very much luck finding anything used that suited.
Ok...maybe I'll just get a new one...they seem to hold their value pretty well (12 - 13k) I thought...quotes came back just shy of 14k (BX2360). Oh well...what's another 1 - 2k. What...0% financing for 60 months...no cash discount? Well...if I'm going to spend that much let me jump up to a B series because it will do more and we may end up moving to some place with a little bigger piece of property. Ordered a B2320 last week for what a lot of people spend on cars. Considered calling back and going with a 2620 but where does it stop? I think I'll be happy with my B2320.
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I went back to see what you want to do with the tractor and the only thing you've mentioned is a post hole digger. I have to smile at the advise/recommendations you've rec'd beyond the PTO question you asked about. 
The running out of traction before HP is correct which has been tossed in. I won't give you any advise/suggestions until you give a bit of detail of your planned needs/jobs/expectations. I will tell you I bought my first tractor 6 years ago. It was a BX2200 with a mid mount mower and a front end loader. I bought it expecting it to be a lifetime mower with an expensive wheelbarrow fastened to the front of it. I went up to a B7800 after a year because of the jobs I found to do after finding out these BX's are tractors that will mow, not mowers that you can do other things with. By the way, I bought my 10th Kubota earlier this month and I've bought and sold and kept several implements. I have around 5 acres of hillside, rocky, treed, gullied property and I am taking control of it. Go to a dealer and drive one around the lot. Hopefully he will have a lot with terain like your property and not a small concrete display lot. If your not convinced after sitting on it and driving it then go to Lowe's or Sears and get a riding Lawn mower which you can replace in 5 or 6 years when maintenance costs more than a new one. Maybe then you'll go for a tractor that mows.
The running out of traction before HP is correct which has been tossed in. I won't give you any advise/suggestions until you give a bit of detail of your planned needs/jobs/expectations. I will tell you I bought my first tractor 6 years ago. It was a BX2200 with a mid mount mower and a front end loader. I bought it expecting it to be a lifetime mower with an expensive wheelbarrow fastened to the front of it. I went up to a B7800 after a year because of the jobs I found to do after finding out these BX's are tractors that will mow, not mowers that you can do other things with. By the way, I bought my 10th Kubota earlier this month and I've bought and sold and kept several implements. I have around 5 acres of hillside, rocky, treed, gullied property and I am taking control of it. Go to a dealer and drive one around the lot. Hopefully he will have a lot with terain like your property and not a small concrete display lot. If your not convinced after sitting on it and driving it then go to Lowe's or Sears and get a riding Lawn mower which you can replace in 5 or 6 years when maintenance costs more than a new one. Maybe then you'll go for a tractor that mows.KU Gator
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Moving into new house in Wichita area on 3 flat acres. Maintaining drive and doing yard projects. It was in his other posts.
I'll describe a bit more.
First, its a new development, there are almost now trees, it was pretty flat, now with the house being a walkout basement we've developed a bit of a incline but not too bad.
We have a pond at one end of the lot as part of water easement. We also have a chunk of the water easement running through the side of the lot into the pond. It will need a bit of fixing right now because it has eroded a bit.
The lot is pretty clean right now so there won't be any need to remove old stumps, or anything like that.
So the projects will start with planting grass. Installing a small fence (<200 ft). Then we would like to do a bit of landscaping, personally I am a big fan of raising and lowering levels, so making berms, hills, etc. I also have plans for a couple of small ponds. We also want to extend our backyard patio which will need a bit of work on digging so we can pour the cement at the same level as our current patio.
Also I have a gravel drive (circular) which will need maintenance.
And finally, the wife and I have a bit of the re-modeler complex so I am sure we'll be working on that backyard for as long as we live there.
Money-wise the bx2360 is probably as high as we would go, if we even consider going that high. After-all we gotta save a little for implements in the future, seed, fertilizer, who knows what else.
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--Carlos
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Get the BX1860 and the implements you need now for the difference in money at the 0% interest for all of it. Get a , MMM, FEL, boxblade and RatchetRake. Have (pay) someone with a post hole digger to come dig all your fence posts or buy a PHD for a SCUT and plan to use it for planting trees and shrubs and other plants over the years. Or buy it, dig your posts and then sell it. I bought almost 60 trees one year from Lowe's at clearance so I bought a PHD for that and have already gotten rid of it, but it was great for my need at the time. PHD's don't require great PTO HP.