BX25 First Impressions From A Novice

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savaytse66

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2010 BX25
Well, I bit the bullet and bought a new BX25 last week. After getting prices from three local dealers and a couple non-local dealers, I landed a price of just over $18,000 locally for the tractor with a 54" MMM and filled rear turf tires. And I sold my 2001 G2160 garden tractor for $4,750, which is about half of what I paid 9 years ago once you factor in attachments. So all in all, with 72 month financing, I'm pretty happy with the purchase.

The hardest part of the deal was not having any time to play with it for two or three days after purchasing. Since I had no experience with a tractor like this, and I had never operated an FEL or backhoe, I wasn't sure what to expect. My dealer spent about an hour with me when he delivered it; he showed me how to remove and re-attach the implements, showed me how to operate it, etc. But it wasn't until two days later that I actually could spend some time on it.

My first project is to remove a small wood retaining wall and re-build it in another part of my yard. The wall had a planting area behind it that needs to come out to make room for a garage addition. So I thought this would be a good place to start playing.

The backhoe is really easy to operate, but there is going to be a little bit of a learning curve before the controls become completely intuitive. Same for the FEL, but not quite as much. The FEL picked up relatively loose dirt and driveway stones with ease, and the BH didn't even flinch when I dug out some of the soil. I can tell I'm really going to like these implements.

Yesterday, I finally had the chance to remove both the FEL and BH. It really couldn't be much easier. It was the first time I even attempted it, and it only took about 10 - 15 minutes total. A few of the quick connects on the hoses were a little tight, but I imagine they'll loosen a little over time. Hopefully they're just as easy to re-mount.

The mower deck was the most difficult thing to mount and dismount. It's not hard, per say, just very awkward and heavy. Kubota apparently hasn't changed the mower mounting since at least 2001, because it's the same as my G2160 was.

I had a few hiccups cutting grass, but nothing major. Once the mower deck was re-mounted, I thought I'd just fire it up and start cutting. However, the throttle lever near the steering wheel was not sticking in the open position. I could move the throttle lever, but once I let go, it would quickly drift back to around 2,200 RPM. So I had to get behind the screen and adjust the friction nuts underneath, but it was no big deal. Once I got going though, the mower seemed to do a pretty nice job. The grass wasn't too tall though, and I had the height set to around 3, so I didn't get the full effect of a freshly cut lawn. I did find that the ROPS were a little too tall to get under some tree branches, so i'll probably cut grass with them down. I don't have any hills to worry about, and I never had ROPS on the G2160. But maybe I'll just cut the branches off. I don't know yet.

I found the ride around the yard to be quite bumpy, but we had a bit of a mole/vole problem, so I think the ground is just more uneven than usual (anyone have advice on how to flatten the yard?). Maybe it's a combination of that and the filled tires. I'm sure I'll get a better feel for it soon.

After about 4 total hours, I'm quite pleased with the machine. The only complaint I have is that turning the seat around to switch between FEL and BH can become annoying, but it's a minor gripe. Until I get used to all the controls, I can live with that. Otherwise, this thing will do anything I ever ask of it on my 1 acre lot, I'm sure of it. I'm looking forward to getting the retaining wall down so I can move more than just a bucket or two of dirt.

Thanks for all of the good information that led me to my decision!

Chris
 
   / BX25 First Impressions From A Novice #2  
Congrats!
Glad you found the friction bolt, a simple fix really, dealer should've caught it, but its okay- you get to know you BX a little better.

I beleive you will get used to the BH seat swiveling over time. Not sure why you felt the mower deck is difficult? Its a breeze for me as I gotten used to it and its so much better then the junk cheapo tractors that has godzillions bolts to take out for the deck.
 
   / BX25 First Impressions From A Novice #3  
I found the ride around the yard to be quite bumpy, but we had a bit of a mole/vole problem, so I think the ground is just more uneven than usual (anyone have advice on how to flatten the yard?). Maybe it's a combination of that and the filled tires. I'm sure I'll get a better feel for it soon.


Chris

Get a pull behind roller and use regularly. The heavier the better. in addition to smoothing out the yard it also seems to decrease the mole tracks from reappearing. I think there are two reasons for this. 1-they are lazy and do not want to keep re-digging the runs and/or 2- you get Lucky and catch them in the run and smash their little heads and indirectly fertilize the lawn. Good luck and enjoy the additional seat time.
 
   / BX25 First Impressions From A Novice #4  
edit: never mind, reread the post that you have turf tires. Congrats on your purchase!
 
   / BX25 First Impressions From A Novice
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Not sure why you felt the mower deck is difficult? Its a breeze for me as I gotten used to it and its so much better then the junk cheapo tractors that has godzillions bolts to take out for the deck.

I guess "difficult" is relative. The BH and FEL were a cinch to take off. The mower deck just requires a little more back, so to speak. On my G2160, I always found the connection to the drive shaft a little cumbersome since it's not right there in front of you. You have to get underneath and feel your way around. Like you said, once you get used to it, it's no big deal. And really, I don't plan on removing the mower deck at all except at the end of the mowing season, so it's almost a moot point. I like having the extra weight down low anyway.

By the way, since posting originally, I reattached the FEL and BH and had a harder time than I expected, though I blame myself more than anything. I didn't have the tractor lined up just right for the BH, and manipulating all the controls will take a little practice. I suspect that once I do it a few more times, it will become second nature.

I do have trouble getting some of those hoses reconnected though. The yellow one for the FEL was especially difficult. I spent 10 minutes getting it connected today. I know I pulled the sleeve on the female end back completely, it just wouldn't click on all the way. I hope they just need broken in a little.
 
   / BX25 First Impressions From A Novice #6  
I guess "difficult" is relative. The BH and FEL were a cinch to take off. The mower deck just requires a little more back, so to speak. On my G2160, I always found the connection to the drive shaft a little cumbersome since it's not right there in front of you. You have to get underneath and feel your way around. Like you said, once you get used to it, it's no big deal. And really, I don't plan on removing the mower deck at all except at the end of the mowing season, so it's almost a moot point. I like having the extra weight down low anyway.

By the way, since posting originally, I reattached the FEL and BH and had a harder time than I expected, though I blame myself more than anything. I didn't have the tractor lined up just right for the BH, and manipulating all the controls will take a little practice. I suspect that once I do it a few more times, it will become second nature.

I do have trouble getting some of those hoses reconnected though. The yellow one for the FEL was especially difficult. I spent 10 minutes getting it connected today. I know I pulled the sleeve on the female end back completely, it just wouldn't click on all the way. I hope they just need broken in a little.
Pressure can be in the hydraulic lines and make it almost impossible to reattach. I guess the sun heated mine up one time and I was ready to go trade tractors again. I finally loosened one of the lines to relieve pressure and it just clicked on so easy. If it doesn't click, it's not truly attached. Some here whack the detent ball inside the fitting to relieve pressure and some say they do it with a screwdriver, I had no luck with either. Sure those that have been successful with relieving pressure will chip in and I always like reading about it myself. Come on pressure relievers. And be sure and give the warning of the high pressure driving the fluid into the skin and causing severe health issues.
 
   / BX25 First Impressions From A Novice #7  
The most probable reason for the quick connect difficulty is residual pressure. Prior to removing the FEL /BH, wuith the engine off, cycle all of the joysticks to relieve the pressure on the impliment. You will see the impliment "relax" when you do this. Then remove the disconnect...I'll bet you see a big difference.
 
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If you get all but one disconnect hooked up with tractor off move the joystick in all directions. This will relieve any trapped pressure and the last one should go on now.

If like john Thomas said you pressure trapped from thermal expansion you will have to loosen a fitting or try pushing in one of the poppets in the QD. This is difficult to do on the female half.

Roy
 
   / BX25 First Impressions From A Novice #9  
Congratulations on your purchase! You'll be surprised by how quickly operating the backhoe becomes second nature if you use if often.

Glad you fixed your throttle, but isn't there some thing where you're supposed to keep it in low RPMs during the first 50 hours? Perhaps you should have left that nut loose for a while. :)
 
   / BX25 First Impressions From A Novice #10  
I was having the same issue with yellow connector as well until I started doing huge circles on fel joystick after shutting the engine off 2 to 3 times and I always would see the FEL act like it drops. This makes it easy to disconnect the hoses with one hand.pop,pop,pop,pop all 4 in one quick movement.
Did you know that unhooking the FEL in the sun or area where it will have sun when you need to reconnect will make it hard to reconnect hoses ? as hydraulic oil expands from sun, it creates pressure.
 
   / BX25 First Impressions From A Novice #11  
Congratulations and you should enjoy this peice of fine orange. I enjoy it. Before I bought my Bx1860 I use to feel so much disabled to do many things, like one of old truck engine was put in the yard and I wanted to move that 10 feet away so I can keep my yard clean but couldnot do because there is no way I move 500 lbs alone and always need help. Yesterday firedup the tractor, put a strap around the engine and moved it in no time. I mowed the grass in fraction of the time compared to my lawn mower. Bought a generator from costco other day needed help to remove my truck "there goes my tractor with FEL again, Told my wife this is the kind of help I needed from tractor.

Ganesh
 
   / BX25 First Impressions From A Novice #12  
1*Well, I bit the bullet and bought a new BX25 last week.
2*I'll probably cut grass with ROPS down.
3*But maybe I'll just cut the branches off.
I don't know yet.
4*I found the ride around the yard to be quite bumpy,
but we had a bit of a mole/vole problem, so I think the ground is just more uneven than usual
5* (anyone have advice on how to flatten the yard?).
1*Congrats on the BX25.
Did you get it with the 3 point hitch ?
2*Not the best idea.
3*A better idea.
4*I thought my BX23 rode and drove like a Caddy.
Of course I'd been used to a Bolens 850 garden tractor for 38 years.
5*I just back drage any mole hills that I see when mowing down flat
with the Feel bucket.



.
 
   / BX25 First Impressions From A Novice #13  
Ditto on the congrats, the BX25 is a phenomenal machine! Sounds like the beginning of a long and fruitful relationship. :thumbsup:
 
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Pressure can be in the hydraulic lines

The most probable reason for the quick connect difficulty is residual pressure

...This will relieve any trapped pressure and the last one should go on now.

I was having the same issue with yellow connector as well until I started doing huge circles on fel joystick after shutting the engine off...

I think the reason I was having trouble with the quick connect might have something to do with pressure in the hydraulic lines;).

Did you know that unhooking the FEL in the sun or area where it will have sun when you need to reconnect will make it hard to reconnect hoses ? as hydraulic oil expands from sun, it creates pressure.

Fortunately, I'll be doing all of my implement switching in the garage, so sun should not be an issue. I'll have to make sure to store the implements away from the windows though while they're not in use.

Thanks to all for the heads up up the hydraulic pressure. I never realized this could be creating the problem. But now that I think about it, it makes all the sense in the world. I almost can't wait to take the BH off an on again.

Glad you fixed your throttle, but isn't there some thing where you're supposed to keep it in low RPMs during the first 50 hours? Perhaps you should have left that nut loose for a while. :)

I think I read this in the manual, and my dealer mentioned it also. But he straight out told me it's unrealistic, especially since I will be mowing grass weekly. It took me two years to hit 50 hours on my G2160. I'm sure I'll hit it more quickly on this machine, but still not very quickly. The only thing my dealer warned against was using high gear. He basically told me that unless I'm driving it around the yard with no load, or driving it down to his shop, there's no reason to use high gear. He told me using high while cutting the grass won't hurt anything though. I found that while cutting a few days ago, I needed to use high just to zip around a little more quickly like I'm used to. I found that in low at WOT, I was moving pretty slowly, at least compared to the G2160 I was used to.

Did you get it with the 3 point hitch ?

No. I don't see myself ever using it, but if I need it, I can always add it. Someone suggested a roller, but I don't know if my other half would ever see the justification, and honestly, I'm at my budget's end with large purchases, though I have no idea what a roller costs.
 
   / BX25 First Impressions From A Novice #15  
At the risk of making myself a target of the safety police, everywhere, I'd say mowing a perfectly flat lawn, sans ROPS is not exactly life threatening. As you said, your big Kubota diesel lawn tractor did not have them, ditto Deere's big X series tractors. Given how tall those ROPS are and how high you'd have to trim up everything, I'd say go on with life. Stay away from ditches or embankments. It's not like its going to just flip itself on a flat lawn. Geeesh.
 
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I think the reason I was having trouble with the quick connect might have something to do with pressure in the hydraulic lines;).



Fortunately, I'll be doing all of my implement switching in the garage, so sun should not be an issue. I'll have to make sure to store the implements away from the windows though while they're not in use.

Thanks to all for the heads up up the hydraulic pressure. I never realized this could be creating the problem. But now that I think about it, it makes all the sense in the world. I almost can't wait to take the BH off an on again.



I think I read this in the manual, and my dealer mentioned it also. But he straight out told me it's unrealistic, especially since I will be mowing grass weekly. It took me two years to hit 50 hours on my G2160. I'm sure I'll hit it more quickly on this machine, but still not very quickly. The only thing my dealer warned against was using high gear. He basically told me that unless I'm driving it around the yard with no load, or driving it down to his shop, there's no reason to use high gear. He told me using high while cutting the grass won't hurt anything though. I found that while cutting a few days ago, I needed to use high just to zip around a little more quickly like I'm used to. I found that in low at WOT, I was moving pretty slowly, at least compared to the G2160 I was used to.



No. I don't see myself ever using it, but if I need it, I can always add it. Someone suggested a roller, but I don't know if my other half would ever see the justification, and honestly, I'm at my budget's end with large purchases, though I have no idea what a roller costs.
How did you retrieve all those quotes and add them to this one post? I've been doing the copy and paste or answer each individually. Save me some time and tell me how to do this.:)
 
   / BX25 First Impressions From A Novice #17  
Congratulations on your new tractor; truly great little machines.

Regarding the "rough ride" have you checked your tire air pressure? I have found a few extra PSI can affect the ride quality and reduce/increase with/without FEL. I have had two BX's and neither rode smoothly, but you can mitigate this with air adjustments and of course smoothing your lawn. I haven't had much luck with mole elimination so far though.

There is another thread on "break in" you might want to check.

I tend to agree with BP on the ROPS; don't have one on my Fords, ATV, JD 425 etc. Now on anything but flat land; different story.
 
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How did you retrieve all those quotes and add them to this one post? I've been doing the copy and paste or answer each individually. Save me some time and tell me how to do this.:)

There is an option right next to the Quote Button to activate multi-quote (quotation mark picture with a plus sign). Go through the posts and click the multi-quote button. After you activate the last post you want to quote, just hit the quote button and it will do the work for you. I just learned this myself recently on another forum. Saves time and avoids double and triple posting!
 
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At the risk of making myself a target of the safety police, everywhere, I'd say mowing a perfectly flat lawn, sans ROPS is not exactly life threatening.

Alright sir, do you know why I pulled you over? Let me see your poster's license and tractor registation...:cool:

There is an option right next to the Quote Button to activate multi-quote (quotation mark picture with a plus sign). Go through the posts and click the multi-quote button. After you activate the last post you want to quote, just hit the quote button and it will do the work for you. I just learned this myself recently on another forum. Saves time and avoids double and triple posting!

This place is great because everybody's got something to teach as well as learn.
 
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All the time on this board and I never noticed those two boxes beside the quote button. Thanks, JT
 

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