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   / At Home In The Woods #1,741  
Dave,
What is kickout flashing?
Thanks,
Obed

It's basically exactly what you think it is. Here is a pic of one variation (search google for pics of kickout flashing)that should give you the idea:

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You want it to "kick-out" the water away from the wall to get it past the joint.
 

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   / At Home In The Woods #1,742  
Flashing/Siding/Brick/Roofing Question

We are trying to figure out a good way to keep water from running behind the brick at the spot in the picture that is circled in yellow. Does anyone have any good suggestions?

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Thanks in advance,
Obed

I wouldn't want any place like that up here in the frozen north . I think it would eventually leak. Here most would build the wall out flush with the brick and flash and side as normal. Looking good Obed
 
   / At Home In The Woods #1,743  
If I'm not too late... I used electroluminescent panels (like the Indiglow stuff in illuminated watches) for night lights to allow guests to navigate the hall to the bathroom etc. For ease of replacement and upgrading as new things may come around I had duplex outlets installed in strategic locations on the ceilings. The night lights just plug in. Although I use the electroluminescent ones, motion detector types or electric eye controlled ones could be swapped for what I have, easily as it is a plug-in.

The electroluminescent type night lites use so little electricity (literally a few cents worth a year) it is not economical to control them. Just let them run 24-7 as it would take several decades to pay for a controller on energy savings.

An alternative I thought of but did not incorporate was a separate circuit running all through the house connecting the ceiling mounted outlets to a relay which would be controlled by an electric eye so when it got dark all the nite lites would come on. That too would take FOREVER to break even considering the extremely low energy consumption of the electroluminescent lights.

One of my favorite ceiling locations for a night light is in the master bath over the commode. It lights the bathroom with a soft glow, just enough for navigation and illuminates the sinks enough for my wife to get a drink of water in the middle of the night (routine occurrence) and is bright enough right under it (9 ft 1 inch ceiling) to illuminate the target for a "pointer." Of course maybe someone else doesn't mind an eye searing bright light in the middle of the night. I do.

Pat
 
   / At Home In The Woods #1,744  
Flashing/Siding/Brick/Roofing Question

We are trying to figure out a good way to keep water from running behind the brick at the spot in the picture that is circled in yellow. Does anyone have any good suggestions?

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Thanks in advance,
Obed

Seems like that will always be a problem spot if you try to change materials. I would think continuing brick would be the best choice.

http://www.thehomeinspector.com/MMMPhotos/2006/JLC/Brick1Lg.jpg

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If you don't want brick then maybe you could fur out the sheathing to be even with the brick and then have the vinyl siding overlap the brick 8" or so -- a vertical j-channel on top of the brick would terminate the siding. Won't look great but should work.
 
   / At Home In The Woods #1,745  
Seems like that will always be a problem spot if you try to change materials. I would think continuing brick would be the best choice.

http://www.thehomeinspector.com/MMMPhotos/2006/JLC/Brick1Lg.jpg

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If you don't want brick then maybe you could fur out the sheathing to be even with the brick and then have the vinyl siding overlap the brick 8" or so -- a vertical j-channel on top of the brick would terminate the siding. Won't look great but should work.

I have to agree that designing that area to have carried brick all the way up would have been the best option and would have looked the best.

But with that said, I like your idea for furring it out as an alternative.
 
   / At Home In The Woods #1,746  
Seems like that will always be a problem spot if you try to change materials. I would think continuing brick would be the best choice.

I agree. Have the framers put the proper amount of support under the roof and have the brick continued up to the end. It will also look better in my opinion.

Chris
 
   / At Home In The Woods #1,747  
I wouldn't want any place like that up here in the frozen north . I think it would eventually leak. Here most would build the wall out flush with the brick and flash and side as normal. Looking good Obed

You know, this is an even better idea. You still would want to flash it properly (including a kickout at the roof/wall joint), but building the wall out flush would would go a long way towards preventing problems down the road. Gonna be a PITA to get up under that eave though...
 
   / At Home In The Woods #1,748  
Obed - Have it framed out thickness of the brick then apply siding. Typical flashing will then keep water from entering. J-channel will need caulking against brick.
 
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#1,749  
Two Long Hard Days
Now that the brick is finished, we need to backfill the footers so that water doesn't collect on them. So we started that job Saturday. Around 8 AM Saturday it rained long enough to make everything muddy and not fun to work in when you are doing digging work.

Since we don't have much depth between the framing and the footers around the basement foundation walls, I worked on cleaning all the junk left on the footers by the brick workers, mortar, bricks, sand, etc. Cleaning the footers was hard labor; my back is very tired. At about 7 PM we got caught by a heavy rain shower and we got drenched. I worked through the rain and stopped working close to dark.

My wife worked on gluing together the drain pipes shown at the end of the retaining wall. It was very tricky getting all the pipes put together and glued just right. My wife glued the contraption together the first time with the cleanout-T put on backwards. She was very frustrated at that point. However, I did that once a few months ago myself. She had to throw away her work and start over. After a lot of measuring and cutting, she got it right.

Today I worked again on cleaning the footers and backfilling. Tomorrow I get to go to my regular job and get some rest. However, this week after work I will be doing more the same stuff I did this weekend.
 

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The work on the back porch and deck started yesterday (Saturday).

In addition, all the main floor walls got insulated Saturday. I'll have to post pictures later.

I'm pleased with the brick cleaning. One big concern we had when picking a brick mason was that we might get sloppy brick work. When the brick work was going on, we had no feel for how clean the "dirty bricks" would get. The bricks are very clean. Yay!
 

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