any rumors of Ms. requiring CDL for duallies?

   / any rumors of Ms. requiring CDL for duallies? #11  
I have no knowledge about this but I have lived in MS all my life and travel around the state for work often. Just today I drove from the south end of the state to the north. I see absolute junk (truck and trailer) with little to no tie downs. I see almost no enforcement of existing laws so why bother with passing more laws. But then again law makers and common sense don't always coexist well.
 
   / any rumors of Ms. requiring CDL for duallies? #12  
I can see the thinking behind it, but in no way does my "common sense" side say it will happen. Of course, I've fallen down that slippery slope before.....
please keep us updated on this one. If one state passes it, you know for sure other states will follow.....
 
   / any rumors of Ms. requiring CDL for duallies?
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#13  
I have no knowledge about this but I have lived in MS all my life and travel around the state for work often. Just today I drove from the south end of the state to the north. I see absolute junk (truck and trailer) with little to no tie downs. I see almost no enforcement of existing laws so why bother with passing more laws. But then again law makers and common sense don't always coexist well.

from Ayn Rand said:
The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted and you create a nation of law-breakers and then you cash in on guilt
That's why there are all the little laws.
 
   / any rumors of Ms. requiring CDL for duallies? #14  
what i do know is cash strapped states are looking for any way to generate revenue that isnt specifically called a "tax"

here in florida when they get agressive to vacume up any spare money the citizens have.. we call it 'revenue enforcement programs' have also heard 'revenue enhancement ' etc.. :(


soundguy
 
   / any rumors of Ms. requiring CDL for duallies? #15  
here in florida when they get agressive to vacume up any spare money the citizens have.. we call it 'revenue enforcement programs' have also heard 'revenue enhancement ' etc.. :(


soundguy

Some days I feel like this revenue source (me) is about tapped out. City, county, state, and federal taxes and fees continue to increase.
 
   / any rumors of Ms. requiring CDL for duallies? #16  
I can understand some of the concern, but if such a law did pass....what would be the big deal?

Are some of you afraid of the CDL-obtaining process, or are you scared of the more stringent vehicle/trailer regulations that would accompany it?

Perhaps it's the random drug testing?

Or.....what?

;)

:D
 
   / any rumors of Ms. requiring CDL for duallies?
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#17  
I can understand some of the concern, but if such a law did pass....what would be the big deal?

Are some of you afraid of the CDL-obtaining process, or are you scared of the more stringent vehicle/trailer regulations that would accompany it?

Perhaps it's the random drug testing?

Or.....what?

;)

:D
Testing & cost
Paperwork - logbooks & cost
Physicals & cost of them

And delay.
For a third straight day Friday, none of Virginia's Department of Motor Vehicles locations were able to issue driver's licenses because of a statewide government computer breakdown.

And did I mention cost?

Over on a trucking forum there are a few guys that drive tractors (as in tractor-trailers) for purely personal use. Constantly get pulled over and have to be checked for logbooks etc.
 
   / any rumors of Ms. requiring CDL for duallies? #18  
Over on a trucking forum there are a few guys that drive tractors (as in tractor-trailers) for purely personal use. Constantly get pulled over and have to be checked for logbooks etc.

Even if they are "constantly" being pulled over, doing daily logbook entries consumes maybe 5 minutes of a driver's time. They're probably not being pulled over to see if their log is up to date, but for other things that are obvious to the authorities.

I'm not clamoring *for* the requirement of a CDL for a dually, but probably half of the dually trucks I see around here are used in conjunction with gooseneck trailers. The dually/gooseneck combo is chosen in many cases by the operator because it doesn't appear "as commercial" as a *more-appropriate-for-their-load* tractor and trailer would. Customers bring such rigs to my workplace all the time to pick up stuff like this:

GENIE-S-60%20(3).jpg


And that machine weighs in at right around 23,000 lbs. Chain it onto a gooseneck trailer that weighs ~6500 lbs., and the driver is towing almost 30,000 lbs. Then add the weight of the truck at 5-6000 lbs., and we're up near 5 tons over the CDL-requirement threshold here.

But since it's a "pickup" it's supposed to get a *pass* of some sort?

And when it gets that *pass*, the driver isn't required to have a medical card, or agree to submit to random drug testing, the vehicle and trailer aren't required to have current inspections, etc., etc.

Sounds like a fine idea considering the loads some of them are hauling.

It may be only occasionally for them, but still.....

;)
 
   / any rumors of Ms. requiring CDL for duallies? #19  
cost, point issues for tickets, physicals, etc.. the list is huge why someone who is not commercial would not want a commercial drivers license.

do you want to go thru the process with the ATF, FBI and NFA to legally own a machine gun.. but.. not actually own one. IE.. just jump thru the hoops, back ground checks and finger prints just for the 'fun' of it? probably not. :(

soundguy


I can understand some of the concern, but if such a law did pass....what would be the big deal?

Are some of you afraid of the CDL-obtaining process, or are you scared of the more stringent vehicle/trailer regulations that would accompany it?

Perhaps it's the random drug testing?

Or.....what?

;)

:D
 
   / any rumors of Ms. requiring CDL for duallies? #20  
cost, point issues for tickets, physicals, etc.. the list is huge why someone who is not commercial would not want a commercial drivers license.

do you want to go thru the process with the ATF, FBI and NFA to legally own a machine gun.. but.. not actually own one. IE.. just jump thru the hoops, back ground checks and finger prints just for the 'fun' of it? probably not. :(

soundguy


You hit the nail on the head. I am glad I live in good old red neck get-r-done Indiana.

Chris
 

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