Good Help (So Hard to Find)

   / Good Help (So Hard to Find) #51  
It is certainly the biggest problem we face in our landscaping lawncare business, but we are slowly getting through it as our kids are old enough to help now :)

It is truly frustrating at times to try and hire decent help.

We have certainly had it numerous times where our help cost us more than we made.
 
   / Good Help (So Hard to Find) #52  
I live and work in a very small town. There's a paper mill here and most of these kids grow up getting told the mill is where they're gonna work. Sadly they just plan on that and make no other effort so when they apply to work for me till they're old enough to work at the mill most of them are lucky to spell their own names right and about half of them don't even manage that. :)7
 
   / Good Help (So Hard to Find) #53  
We've taught our kids (18,21,23) good work ethics and responsibility. A friend hired the 18 yr old several years ago to help with some weeding and mowing. Our daughter still works for them, mowing and weeding and helping out. The first time she mowed (Kubota B2710 with rear finish mower), she came back to the house and asked what to do next after a few hours. He could not believe it, previously it took several days to the other kids to mow what she did in a couple of hours (no she was not going too fast, just paying attention and not screwing off). She has hand weeded his organic onions and garlic, worked around his fruit trees, thinned blossoms on the trees, etc. She does what he asks and the way he wants it done. They are all good help around here and do very well out working also.

I tried to hire a high school kid a few years ago (daughters were all busy with school) and gave up after talking to a few that were as described previously in this thread...
 
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   / Good Help (So Hard to Find) #54  
More work gets done when I have help, but sometimes only because Im working harder.
larry
 
   / Good Help (So Hard to Find) #55  
This thread only seems to mention farm work or other blue collar work. I work in an office and can tell you, it's no different. Good help is hard to find. I've got a client who says "be slow to hire and quick to fire." There's some truth to that.
 
   / Good Help (So Hard to Find) #56  
We have certainly had it numerous times where our help cost us more than we made.

A customer of mine once told me he'd rather pay $25 an hour and have a $7 an hour headache than pay $7 an hour and have a $25 an hour headache.

More work gets done when I have help, but sometimes only because Im working harder.

You help to train, unless it's physically impossible for one to do the work by themselves, otherwise you will always be helping others and never getting any of your own work done.

In a child rearing class we took, it was pointed out that if you continually do the work for the child because they can't seem to do the task right themselves, you may fall into a trap because the child figures out if they don't do the task right, you will take care of the job for them and they will be free of "work".

Last year I had a subordinate complain to me that my managerial skills were lacking because it always seemed to him that my e-mails (documentation on my end) to him about his job performance needed work, and that if he kept making mistakes, drastic changes would have to be made with his position.

I asked this employee how he thought I should handle his situation.

He informed me that perhaps instead of making threats about terminating his position that perhaps I should try to motivate him with a positive (reward) instead of a negative (perhaps having to let him go).

I asked this employee if I have ever denied him training. He said no. I also asked him when I ever denied him help because he asked for it. He said never. I asked him if at any time when I documented his mistakes (on a regular basis at times) if I was unfair in how I wrote up the situation trying to make him "look bad". He said that what I had written up "pretty much is what happened".

So...

I asked this employee if our company was paying him over 40k per year (actual pay) to pick only red M&M's off a conveyor belt (as an example, not his real job) and he keeps picking blue and green M&M's as well as the red M&M's, why should I have to motivate him to ensure he only picks up red M&M's when he isn't doing his job, and I'm the one who gets hammered for the mistakes he's making? I also asked him what he thought he was getting paid for? I mentioned that at his pay rate, I would think that would be motivation enough to ensure you'd want to do your job right.

Kind of funny, he had this deer in the headlight look:D

Now all of that said, sometimes you really do get what you pay for, and like inflation, $10 an hour doesn't get you what it once did.
 
   / Good Help (So Hard to Find) #57  
A customer of mine once told me he'd rather pay $25 an hour and have a $7 an hour headache than pay $7 an hour and have a $25 an hour headache.

You help to train, unless it's physically impossible for one to do the work by themselves, otherwise you will always be helping others and never getting any of your own work done.

In a child rearing class we took, it was pointed out that if you continually do the work for the child because they can't seem to do the task right themselves, you may fall into a trap because the child figures out if they don't do the task right, you will take care of the job for them and they will be free of "work".
Yeah, but lets not talk about kids too much here because they present a more obvious subordinate case where one should expect to do a lot of coaching. ... For delegation of adult tasks the situation is usually less well defined. One expects a certain level of experiential knowledge and decision making based on assessment. It turns out that, in absence of exhaustive/[almost insulting] point by point training, every task involves some level of complexity that must be perceived by the doer as they go along in order to improve the result .. or sometimes just make it possible. Even in throwing hay a slight change can make a huge difference in ease or result or often both. When you hire, I think one of the things you are entitled to is consciousness - - the ability to perceive that the task is going right or wrong - and when not optimum, the cost/benefit judgement to change rote action intelligently or to seek help. The actual realization of this "entitlement" is extremely rare and when you find it it is worth giving more than the agreed rate just to keep around.
larry
 
   / Good Help (So Hard to Find) #58  
There are times when the worst help you have is looking back at you from the mirror!:laughing::laughing:
 
   / Good Help (So Hard to Find) #59  
anyone catch the ranch hands reality show (when i mean reality show i mean the type were the film guys just follow the dudes around doing there everyday jobs, like ice road truckers, axe men, deadliest catch etc)

i forget which channel its on. Was intresting to see the trials and tribulations that the ranch owners went through with various new ranch hands....
 
   / Good Help (So Hard to Find) #60  
There are times when the worst help you have is looking back at you from the mirror!:laughing::laughing:
If you are referring to any expectation that the money you pay for help can actually purchase any consciousness in your behalf, then yes -- you yourself are exhibiting a lack of consciousness. I call it optimism ... an extremely hard act considering composite experience.
larry
 

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