Good Help (So Hard to Find)
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SPYDERLK said:
So true....
I'm rebuilding a deck and adding the metal roof that I should have put on originally. So my neighbor decides he wants to help. First of he can wait for me to open the electric gate and pushes it open, breaking it. I guess cuz he's a tad younger he can handle that 3/4" plywood sheet easier - nope. Anyway we get all the new decking laid and call it a day. Dear wife looks at me and says, "I figure we'd of been done an hour ago if Bob hadn't helped."
Oh well, he meant well and he did treat for dinner later.
Sigarms
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I like your friend. Usually when I have people helping me, I'm the one who treats:laughing:
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Maybe he asked about a ladder...
77transam
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Ahh work...I have found in my 42 years of sweating brow and aching back that the main problems with finding good help (especially w/farming and ranch work), are these:
It's not lack of intelligence, it's lack of exposure to physical labor and harsh living conditions! :laughing:
Generally speaking, today's youth (10 to 25 yr. olds) can figure out how to get to the final level of any complex video game,design and implement their own website, figure out parental passwords to access restricted internet sites and rent r-rated movies, and with just a click access a world-wide database of collective knowledge and technical information the likes of which we've never seen. I constantly ask my teenage nieces and nephew questions about my computer/cell phone and how to perform (to them) simple tasks, and every time they can solve my technical problems in a matter of minutes as opposed to me kicking and cussing for 2 hrs. because they have been exposed to that technology from day one.
Yet none of them know how to start a walk-behind lawn-mower or weed-eater because their dad hires a lawn service to mow the grass.
They get $200 a month clothing allowances and yet they don't know how to do laundry because mom does it.
They get a $10,000 car to drive yet don't know how to check the air in the tires or how to check the oil because dad pays a mechanic $80 to do it.
They live in an automated air-conditioned palace with remote control everything, push-button dishwashers, ice-dispensing refrigerators full of pre-packaged,ready-to-microwave meals and have heat that requires no chopping/splitting of wood!:confused2:
When you get the paycheck/payoff before you have to work, what incentive is there to work? Society used to respect hard-working young men and women. Peers judged each other's work ethic and ability to do difficult physical labor without giving up and quitting. The rite of passage into adulthood was firmly rooted in being able to hang with the big boys.
In my case it was a matter of pride to be able to keep up with my Daddy and Uncles and older boys in the fields. The feeling I got the first time I reached the end of a row of tobacco ahead of other older workers was unlike any experience up to that point. Better performance meant increased wages and respect...plus EARNED BRAGGING RIGHTS!!!
Nowadays whoever has the latest I-Pod, Cell phone, or video game console garners the admiration of his/her fellow youth.:confused2: It's just a different world.
It's not lack of intelligence, it's lack of exposure to physical labor and harsh living conditions! :laughing:
Generally speaking, today's youth (10 to 25 yr. olds) can figure out how to get to the final level of any complex video game,design and implement their own website, figure out parental passwords to access restricted internet sites and rent r-rated movies, and with just a click access a world-wide database of collective knowledge and technical information the likes of which we've never seen. I constantly ask my teenage nieces and nephew questions about my computer/cell phone and how to perform (to them) simple tasks, and every time they can solve my technical problems in a matter of minutes as opposed to me kicking and cussing for 2 hrs. because they have been exposed to that technology from day one.
Yet none of them know how to start a walk-behind lawn-mower or weed-eater because their dad hires a lawn service to mow the grass.
They get $200 a month clothing allowances and yet they don't know how to do laundry because mom does it.
They get a $10,000 car to drive yet don't know how to check the air in the tires or how to check the oil because dad pays a mechanic $80 to do it.
They live in an automated air-conditioned palace with remote control everything, push-button dishwashers, ice-dispensing refrigerators full of pre-packaged,ready-to-microwave meals and have heat that requires no chopping/splitting of wood!:confused2:
When you get the paycheck/payoff before you have to work, what incentive is there to work? Society used to respect hard-working young men and women. Peers judged each other's work ethic and ability to do difficult physical labor without giving up and quitting. The rite of passage into adulthood was firmly rooted in being able to hang with the big boys.
In my case it was a matter of pride to be able to keep up with my Daddy and Uncles and older boys in the fields. The feeling I got the first time I reached the end of a row of tobacco ahead of other older workers was unlike any experience up to that point. Better performance meant increased wages and respect...plus EARNED BRAGGING RIGHTS!!!
Nowadays whoever has the latest I-Pod, Cell phone, or video game console garners the admiration of his/her fellow youth.:confused2: It's just a different world.
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I would resist likening this to work in any way. It is more close to play. It engenders make believe survival skills that do not translate well to the real world without true material experience. With even less of this experience than the people we are complaining about they cannot discern the material performance shortcomings of those hired and so drive the good enuf bar downward and increase the tendency for a throw away society.
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I have 2 part time helpers around the farm, my 16 year old grandson and my new son-in-law. The grandson grew up on the place and has been learing the tricks of the trade since he was 10 years old. Put him on a tractor and he will be slow and deliberate in the job but get it done without hurting someone or breaking something.
The SIL thinks he already knows it all. He must of been a goose in a past life as every day is a new adventure. Something breaks every day when he is operating equipment. I know some things will just wear out but this guy must have the worst luck. I would never put him on a new piece of equipment.
The SIL thinks he already knows it all. He must of been a goose in a past life as every day is a new adventure. Something breaks every day when he is operating equipment. I know some things will just wear out but this guy must have the worst luck. I would never put him on a new piece of equipment.
300UGUY
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It is work. A lot of jobs have very little physical elements. I remember a few years ago talking to a young machinist. I talked about using a Bridgeport. He said he had never used a machine with handles!! Threw me off at first, but he is a great machinist, but does everything thru a CNC controller.
Pirate
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IMO, the internet ruined my son. He is lazy, can rarely finish a job right, and spends too much time playing computer games. He goes to school full time but he will be in for a big surprise when he can't get a job because of his piss-poor work ethic. I have given up. I don't know how he ended up so different than me. I'll end up having to evict him before too long.
Redgoatea
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We each have to find our own path in life. Of course I've told all my kids from the day they were born that they're moving out at 18 so they'd better be ready. 7
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