FEL -- Rear wheels in the air!!

   / FEL -- Rear wheels in the air!! #21  
I wish there was a way to practice for these events... some sort of loader hazard drill. The handful of times I've gotten into trouble with the loader, I have not responded appropriately quickly enough. I tend to just instinctively try to counterbalance the tractor with my body weight which is a pretty ineffective strategy. Once I even started to put my foot out like a kickstand.

I'm getting better at remembering to drop the bucket but I wish I didn't have to think about it.

Is there ever a scenario where it would NOT be appropriate to drop the bucket to the ground if the tractor begins to lose its center of gravity?
depends on what the bucket is positioned over-as it is usually being lifted when the prob occurs, just prior to dumping------------
 
   / FEL -- Rear wheels in the air!! #22  
depends on what the bucket is positioned over-as it is usually being lifted when the prob occurs, just prior to dumping------------

Yeah,
Beware Murphy.
Small children are the obvious one - but they shouldn't BE THERE !!!
and/or you shouldn't be working a FEL where THEY ARE !
 
   / FEL -- Rear wheels in the air!! #23  
I put dual tires front and rear(one rear with anitfreeze) on my L 2800 and besides keeping me off my nose when picking up heavy loads (almost daily) it adds a lot more stability side to side as I am mostly on uneven soft ground. Kinda spendy but worth every penny.
 
   / FEL -- Rear wheels in the air!! #24  
I put dual tires front and rear(one rear with anitfreeze) on my L 2800 and besides keeping me off my nose when picking up heavy loads (almost daily) it adds a lot more stability side to side as I am mostly on uneven soft ground. Kinda spendy but worth every penny.

We have got to see pics of this L2800 with duals front and rear.
 
   / FEL -- Rear wheels in the air!! #25  
While moving 30' steel members.... yep....really, really need bunches of weight on rear to keep wheels on ground....considered mandatory....and, that was your point of the post:thumbsup:
 
   / FEL -- Rear wheels in the air!! #26  
Had the rear wheels come off the ground the first day we had our L3600GST, no counter weight on the 3pt. But the problem was that it was the counter weight that actually made the rear wheels come off the ground. I was getting our old weight off our old Ford 555, a 55 gal drum filled with concrete roughly 990lbs, out of the weeds. I put the drum down there with our S250 Bobcat, but I didn't even think of getting the drum out of the weeds with the S250 before I traded it for the L3600. Ended up wrapping a tow strap around the drum and then a chain to the strap and pulling the drum up the hill instead of carrying it.
 
   / FEL -- Rear wheels in the air!! #27  
Here Randall, the rear ones are commercially available but I had to make the front ones myself.
 
   / FEL -- Rear wheels in the air!! #28  
lets try that again pics didn't attach will try just one this time
 

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   / FEL -- Rear wheels in the air!! #29  
lets try that again pics didn't attach will try just one this time

Why did you choose to go with smaller fronts? I am guessing turning but do they really provide traction and stability??:)
 
   / FEL -- Rear wheels in the air!! #31  
Half my work is done on the beach so I needed the floatation when there but don't when I am on hard pack so thought that would give me both plus turning clearance with fel bracket and easier on the tie rods. Dealer wouldn't warranty anything with the front end cause I did it but the tractor would be almost worthless here without. Yes definitely on the traction with the fronts and not much if any on stability but the back more than make up for that. I have to take the duals off to get the tractor in and out of the skiff and it can barely get itself up the beach without them much less carry a load.
 
   / FEL -- Rear wheels in the air!! #32  
lets try that again pics didn't attach will try just one this time

I didnt know rear duals were an option. That is a beastly looking set up. I bet that little machine would really stick to the hillside. Thanks for the post of the oic.:thumbsup:
 
   / FEL -- Rear wheels in the air!! #34  
The rears I got from unverferth.com and they are a snap to put off and on even filled. Just 4 J bolts although I only take them off to load in/out of the skiff as it is too **** tippy without. I am sure I would have rolled it several times without those duals.
Rick
 
   / FEL -- Rear wheels in the air!! #35  
Thanks for the photo, it looks pretty stable, plus great for sand. JY.
 
   / FEL -- Rear wheels in the air!! #36  
........ It was like slow motion, the FEL falling into the truck side while I couldn't respond quick enough to move away.


SEOhDave said:
I wish there was a way to practice for these events... some sort of loader hazard drill. The handful of times I've gotten into trouble with the loader, I have not responded appropriately quickly enough. I tend to just instinctively try to counterbalance the tractor with my body weight which is a pretty ineffective strategy. Once I even started to put my foot out like a kickstand.

I'm getting better at remembering to drop the bucket but I wish I didn't have to think about it.

Is there ever a scenario where it would NOT be appropriate to drop the bucket to the ground if the tractor begins to lose its center of gravity?





You guys need to get into the discussion about the 5 second reaction time, over in the safety forum I think.



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   / FEL -- Rear wheels in the air!! #37  
This summer I was mowing around my pond with the 2920 and of course trying to get as close to the water as possible to keep from having to go back with the weedwacker. Slopes down all around the pond and when I went to back off at one point my right front tire slipped off a boulder which lifted the left rear tire-teetering the tractor. Well, there we sat and I knew I had one chance to hit the diff lock and try to back off. Un-did the seat belt to bail out and prepared to use the Kubota insurance. Luckily it worked. Well, we had a dry summer and that pond is down 5 feet of water which revealed a sheer drop-off where I would have gone in and maybe not come up. The lesson is, most of the time what you are doing when you get in trouble just aint worth it. Use your head, don't rush the job and walk away when things start to not go right. Only the pussycats have 9 lives
 
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#38  
After dialing in some proper ballast for our loads, we upped the ante by really cantelevering some loads off the end of the pallet forks while at full FEL lift height (stock 11'), that is our new max FEL lift height of 16'-18'!!! Fortunately, we were working with one I-beam at a time instead of the eight square columns that I was carrying when I had the rear wheels off the ground.

It might seem akward, but it worked very well. :D I described and have pictures in another thread:
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/185637-front-end-loader-now-we.html
 

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