TC29 not loader ready, tips to install loader

[scram98400jm]

I have a TC29 (not supersteer) & it is not set up for a loader today. I'm in the process of buying a left over, still in the crate, 14LA loader for it. It's supposed to come w/ the joystick control valve, hose etc, everything needed to make it operational. Is this a big project to hook everything from the loader to the tractor, or is there a lot involved w/ setting it up? Any help is appriciated since this is all new to me.
Thanks
Jim

 

[brin]

I have a TC29 (not supersteer) & it is not set up for a loader today. I'm in the process of buying a left over, still in the crate, 14LA loader for it. It's supposed to come w/ the joystick control valve, hose etc, everything needed to make it operational. Is this a big project to hook everything from the loader to the tractor, or is there a lot involved w/ setting it up? Any help is appriciated since this is all new to me.
Thanks
Jim

I have a TC-29D with a 7308 loader but I had the dealer install it. I am not that gifted so if you have those skills great but in my opinion if you have never worked with that kind of thing I would be careful but hey, it is just me - I do my maintenance and routine service but not beyond that.

 

[montejw]

if you don't know already, you really want to get the hydraulics RIGHT. make sure you have good clear instructions on how to hook it up, otherwise you risk a blown hydraulic pump or other bits.

can't help with any specifics other than that. good luck and have fun, sounds like a fun project.

 

[jinman]

I have a TC29 (not supersteer) & it is not set up for a loader today. I'm in the process of buying a left over, still in the crate, 14LA loader for it. It's supposed to come w/ the joystick control valve, hose etc, everything needed to make it operational. Is this a big project to hook everything from the loader to the tractor, or is there a lot involved w/ setting it up? Any help is appriciated since this is all new to me.
Thanks
Jim

Jim, what year model is your TC29? The 14LA is made for tractors made afer 2004. If you have an early TC29D, the loader will probably not fit correctly. Of course, the dealer should have asked and told you that before selling you the loader.

 

[scram98400jm]

We bought the TC29,4wd, hydro in 2000 so I think it's a 1999. The local dealer said the old 7308, newer 14LA & the newest 240TL all would fit. Then I ordered the 14LA from another dealer & they said it would fit the TC29 after I said I had a 1999 model. I think it may have already shipped but I'll call the dealer again to make sure it fits. Why would think the 14LA doesn't fit my 1999 TC29?
Thanks

 

[jinman]

When they came out, the word was that they could not be retrofitted to the older Class II tractors. The 14LA has higher lift specs than the 7308. It was my understanding that the front axle and mounting was stronger on the 2004 and later tractors. If your dealer says it fits, ask him how many he has installed on pre-2004 tractors. I don't know for sure, but if you search this forum, you surely can find application postings related to the 14LA.

 

[scram98400jm]

14LA front end loader - update

I asked a follow up question:
"Will the 14LA only work on new tractors or will it also work on older (existing) ones?"

I got this response:
"The 14LA will work on existing Class II Boomers, not just new ones that come with the 14LA."


I cut this is from another thread I found on here. Am I reading this correctly? It does say that the factory says that the 14LA will fit?

Thanks

 

[jinman]

14LA front end loader - update

I asked a follow up question:
"Will the 14LA only work on new tractors or will it also work on older (existing) ones?"

I got this response:
"The 14LA will work on existing Class II Boomers, not just new ones that come with the 14LA."


I cut this is from another thread I found on here. Am I reading this correctly? It does say that the factory says that the 14LA will fit?

Thanks

Yep, you cut that from a post by Mosey, who was asking about the 14LA in an email before the 14LA came out. Just before that quote, the Cust. Svc. Representative had told him they could not release info about unreleased products. What I'm saying is that the inference many not be accurate. If I was going to invest as much money as you are in this loader, I'd ask the dealer if he has ever installed one on a pre-2004 tractor and I'd also write an email inquiry to New Holland to ask if it will work in your application. I could easily be wrong, but I'd feel really bad if I let you buy this and it didn't work without at least "raising the flag" and saying you should be sure. I just want you to be happy with your loader. If I am wrong, I'd love to know it also.

EDIT: There used to be a dealer on here who posted regularly. He doesn't post much anymore, but his user name is spencer200. Check out this post by him in relation to the 14LA. This is source of my concern.

 

[scram98400jm]

I can't thank you enough, we'll I could send you barrel of $$$ right? You were right after all. I called the local dealer back & pinned him down on your exact points, so I heard him on the other end flipping though stuff & reading under his breath & he finally said, he was sorry & was previously incorrect & loader in fact will NOT fit. It was $3100 brand new, in the crate, everything included plus $350 s/h from CA to PA. I then called the seller & told them it wouldn't fit which they still arn't sure about. I did stop the shipment, just in time!!! Yippee!!! She said they have a 7308 still new & in the crate w/ everything included for $100 more. I'll be ordeing that one instead, thanks to you. :thumbsup:

Thanks again
Jim

 

[brin]

I have a TC-29D with a 7308 loader but I had the dealer install it. I am not that gifted so if you have those skills great but in my opinion if you have never worked with that kind of thing I would be careful but hey, it is just me - I do my maintenance and routine service but not beyond that.

scram98400jm....Now you have the right loader but I still caution you about installing it yourself, unless you have help and the knowledge...this is heavy equipment and you need the right tools and knowledge...Good Luck

 

[scram98400jm]

I have an old Case580CK that I've, rebuilt, taken the loader & back on & off many times & many other assorted thing but never worked w/ the TC29. Your probably right, it may be too much but I see how far I can go & may be back on here for a few simple questions, hopefully.
Thanks
Jim

 

[jinman]

She said they have a 7308 still new & in the crate w/ everything included for $100 more. I'll be ordeing that one instead, thanks to you. :thumbsup:

Thanks again
Jim

Jim, in a way I am truly disappointed that I was not wrong. The 14LA is a superior loader to the 7308. Even so, if you had the 14LA, it would have led to frustration and wasted money. So I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I'm happy that news was not as bad as it could have been. Good luck with your upcoming install.:thumbsup:

 

[RickB]

I would not expect to pay more for a 7308 than a 14LA. I'd shop around a little more if I were you. At this point, they should be darn glad someone is looking for a 7308.

 

[brin]

I have to say I have had a 7308 FEL on my 2000 TC -29D for 10 years now and it has done everything I ever wanted it to and more, in fact I have never had a problem with except one time when I bought the wrong Hyd. filter for it but with the right filter it was fine...So exactly what do you fellas not like about the 7308 Loader...? Hmmmm?

 

[jinman]

I would not expect to pay more for a 7308 than a 14LA. I'd shop around a little more if I were you. At this point, they should be darn glad someone is looking for a 7308.

Well, he is getting all the components for a complete install for $3200 if my math is correct. I too think they are gouging him a bit, but that price may be hard to beat. I don't know that for sure since I have not priced one, of course.

Bob (brin): The 7308 has a lift capacity around 950 lb. The 14LA is about 1400 lb and has curved arms for added visibility. It's also easier to disconnect and attach. There is nothing wrong with the 7308, but the 14LA is the more desireable in my opinion.

 

[montejw]

I have an old Case580CK that I've, rebuilt, taken the loader & back on & off many times & many other assorted thing but never worked w/ the TC29. Your probably right, it may be too much but I see how far I can go & may be back on here for a few simple questions, hopefully.
Thanks
Jim

One thing about the loader is that if it's in the correct orientation you don't have to lift it to attach it to the tractor, you just drive up to it, hook up the lines and load it like normal. All you would have to do is have the sub-frame attached to the tractor.

 

[scram98400jm]

I must have called over 2 dozen used add's that had a loader on the TC & no one would split them to sell me just the loader & absolutely no one had the old 7308 loader sitting around, new & in a crate other than this place. The only new loader I could buy in this size is a new 240TL which my local Ohio dealer said was like $5000, not that it would fit my tractor anyway. The point is, I thought $3200 was a good deal since it was my only option. I didn't feel like welding one up from scratch (PF Enginnering plans). If I had a 2004 & up tractor & bought the 14LA for $3100 I would also be happy. I called my local dealer & they said it's a piece of cake to instal, just takes time so I'll let ya'll know how it turns out, like if I drop it on my foot or something. The reason the seller in calif said the 7803 was more than the 14LA was because they said the 7803 will fit the new tractors but the 14LA will not. They are stuck w/ these old 14LA loaders & no way to sell them w/ new tractors. Not sure what they're refering to or if they're right or not. This is Bechtold Equip in Calif I'm refering to, who I'm buying htis from. They are new & still in the original crates.
Thanks

 

[Jbrink64]

Well, he is getting all the components for a complete install for $3200 if my math is correct. I too think they are gouging him a bit, but that price may be hard to beat. I don't know that for sure since I have not priced one, of course.

Bob (brin): The 7308 has a lift capacity around 950 lb. The 14LA is about 1400 lb and has curved arms for added visibility. It's also easier to disconnect and attach. There is nothing wrong with the 7308, but the 14LA is the more desireable in my opinion.

I thought the curved arms were to make clearance for a supersteer.

 

[RickB]

I thought the curved arms were to make clearance for a supersteer.

Supersteer has been around longer than curved boom loaders. And SuperSteer tractors require a different model loader (and longer boom) than straight axle tractors.

 

[brin]

Well, he is getting all the components for a complete install for $3200 if my math is correct. I too think they are gouging him a bit, but that price may be hard to beat. I don't know that for sure since I have not priced one, of course.

Bob (brin): The 7308 has a lift capacity around 950 lb. The 14LA is about 1400 lb and has curved arms for added visibility. It's also easier to disconnect and attach. There is nothing wrong with the 7308, but the 14LA is the more desireable in my opinion.

Jim....
I see what you mean Jim...I like those curved arms and the 1400 lb. capacity would be great but with the very small front tires on the TC 29 I doubt the tractor could handle lifting that much in the FEL without flattening both front tires.. Why NH ever put such small front tires on a 29 hp tractor I will never know.