Why no ag tires on the 2000 series?

[Gizmo2]

Ok, witch one looks better?

Have to ask. For what and for whom?

 

[RoyJackson]

I've been looking (longingly) at the 55 series tractors - a lot of people talk about how it was the perfect tractor series from JD.
So, I took out the 55-series brochure I've had for years and discovered almost all of the tractors - even those with mid-mount mowers - have ag tires in the literature.

Back when the x55 series (as well as the x50 series and the x70 series) Deeres were being sold, there weren't many going to residential owners. Most were going to commercial enterprises of some sort (golf courses and landscapers) and small farms (and larger farms that had need for a small tractor). Any residential use was limited to those who had an estate large enough to justify them.
Turf tires for the golf courses, of course. Ags for the small farms.
Didn't see many with R-4's as these machines weren't used in industrial or construction applications.
As most subCUTs are primarily used as big lawn mowers, I can't see manufacturers offering a tire option that would be rarely purchased.
BTW, I'm defining subCUT as any tractor weighing less then 2000 lbs...that's MY definition.

 

[JD755]

BTW, I'm defining subCUT as any tractor weighing less then 2000 lbs...that's MY definition.

Guess my personal definition is those with garden tractor size tires that cause them to sit so low to the ground it's not possible to have a full cat 1 hitch. You can see at a glance which ones those are.

BTW you probably know R4 tires were not available on x55 tractors. Just ag or turf.

 

[jenkinsph]

Back when the x55 series (as well as the x50 series and the x70 series) Deeres were being sold, there weren't many going to residential owners. Most were going to commercial enterprises of some sort (golf courses and landscapers) and small farms (and larger farms that had need for a small tractor). Any residential use was limited to those who had an estate large enough to justify them.
Turf tires for the golf courses, of course. Ags for the small farms.
Didn't see many with R-4's as these machines weren't used in industrial or construction applications.
As most subCUTs are primarily used as big lawn mowers, I can't see manufacturers offering a tire option that would be rarely purchased.
BTW, I'm defining subCUT as any tractor weighing less then 2000 lbs...that's MY definition.

Roy, less than a ton is actually a good size and weight break. I can agree with you on this. I am just not sure that I can consider these little things as tractors.

 

[RoyJackson]

BTW you probably know R4 tires were not available on x55 tractors. Just ag or turf.

I don't think R-4's were available on any CUTs back then...just didn't want to make a blanket statement.

 

[JD755]

I don't think R-4's were available on any CUTs back then...just didn't want to make a blanket statement.

I also do not recall any CUT's back then offering R4 tires, but wanted to stay away from that blanket statement.

 

[CompactTractorFan]

Ok, witch one looks better?

Turf!

 

[Gizmo2]

I also do not recall any CUT's back then offering R4 tires, but wanted to stay away from that blanket statement.

My 1988 JD650 had what I would call a great rear tire.

BTW, I was on the third set in the front when it left. Ran chains on the rear, all year from day one.

 

[RoyJackson]

My 1988 JD650 had what I would call a great rear tire.
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BTW, I was on the third set in the front when it left. Ran chains on the rear, all year from day one.

Yeah, that's a bar turf. Great tires...had 'em on my old 670.
Pretty common on garden tractors, IIRC. I don't know if they're still available for subCUTs. The bar turf would be a good tire for them.

 

[dsmau]

I don't think R-4's were available on any CUTs back then...just didn't want to make a blanket statement.

They might not have been offered from the beginning but R4s are presently available on JDParts for x55.

 

[JD755]

They might not have been offered from the beginning but R4s are presently available on JDParts for x55.

I had not noticed they added R4's to JD Parts. Thanks, good to know. The first use of R4's on JD compacts I was aware of was on the 4100 in 1997, so it is possible some of the late x55 tractors might have had them. The 4100 was introduced about a year ahead of the rest of the new 4000 series and offered the same size R4 as now shown in JD Parts for the x55. Also possible they were simply added years later to JD Parts which I'm only guessing might be more likely.

 

[CompactTractorFan]

Yeah, that's a bar turf. Great tires...had 'em on my old 670.
Pretty common on garden tractors, IIRC. I don't know if they're still available for subCUTs. The bar turf would be a good tire for them.

I think you can get them on some Kubota B's, but not the BX...

 

[fgross335_2210]

I have ags and turfs for my 2210. Turfs are on spring/summer/fall for mowing. Ags go on with loader and backblade for snow removal. I move firewood from 'the pile' to my house every 2-3 weeks during the winter and I have to go through 200 feet of yard and snow to get the wood. With the turfs I could not go through more then 4-6 inches of snow, they would spin out quickly. With the ags I can push through 18+ inches, front tires are almost under, front axle and transaxle dragging, but the ags have never left me stuck, they just keep digging. I have found they work extremely good when I need to use the loader to push back the snow piles, too.

For my little sub-CUT, bar tires work wonders.

 

[danedgington]

MY 2210 came with Ag tires back in 03 or so, and I do mostly tilling in loose dirt, loader work, and snow work and they are awesome.

As a matter of fact there have wet days when I was able to move rock piles better and faster with the 2210 than the bobcat....