Long range wireless router help

[JDgreen227]

you guys bring up many good points here. What her service agreement says? I dont know. I only show what is possible. there is probably some TBN'er needs internet from home to barn over same distance.
One person brought up phone internet, I forgot all about that. I have a blackberry I use for internet to my laptop sometimes and data only is 40 bucks a month, so its pretty cheap and decent for internet connection anywhere. :thumbsup: Surely the OP can do that with no issues. USB cable from blackberry/iphone to laptop. install software and away you go on internet.

Have a Blackberry with Verizon as service provider, and although Verizon has extensive data coverage for most of the country there are still areas with none. Your solution would work well IF OP can get coverage where he lives. Back in 2002 I was on the fringe of coverage north of Lansing, Michigan, my device had no service a half mile north of our home. But they have expanded a lot since then.

 

[bigtiller]

I can honestly say that I am an enabler just like your neighbor, but I am trying to cut down. The problem is, my friends keep leaving.

This day in age, there is no way I would allow ANYONE to piggy back off my computer. You never know what they may be into that may or may not lead to a criminal investigation.

 

[zmjc]

This day in age, there is no way I would allow ANYONE to piggy back off my computer. You never know what they may be into that may or may not lead to a criminal investigation.

A more likely scenario is the neighbour's kids would download pirated movies and music... and civil-lawsuit lawyers would come looking at your IP address...

- Mike

 

[KTurner]

OP does not want to pay for service and has so stated.

OP want to use the service from his neighbor to avoid paying.

OP would be stealing the service under NC law.

The difference between your letting your neighbor using your phone is that the neighbor has to come to your house. The OP will be using the service from HIS house. The correct comparison would be the OP going to the neighbor's house to use the connection.

A better comparison would be your neighbor connecting to your phone service and using it without paying. But this would tie up your phone line when the neighbor used the line and you would have to share the same number. Would you allow this? I doubt it. The OP's neighbor does not care about sharing the service because it likely will not affect her service.

Later,
Dan

If I buy X units of something (whether its megabytes of transfer, Twinkies, etc), and want to give some away, I disagree that its criminal stealing. Stealing would be me taking more than I paid for. If I paid for X and took X+1 from the provider, then I'm stealing. If I paid for X and used X-5 myself then gave my neighbor 3, then I'm not stealing. If the agreement was they were non-transferable, then I'm in violation of the agreement for transferring them, but I'm still not stealing.

I hear Canada recently passed a law that would remove some of the ambiguity about this, requiring ISPs to charge based on metered usage instead of selling "unlimited" plans (that were never really unlimited to behind with).

Keith

 

[MossRoad]

I agree this could work, but I picked the old school approach since the OP is unkowledgable in what equipment to get and how to hookup.

As for illegal hook up- if it was direct wire connection, how can it be since his neighbor expressed saying go ahead , borrow my network? if it wireless, well its open for interpretation.:laughing: I'd be leery of trying to do a 17 mile hookup since her hookup is satellite and they are terrible for bandwidth issues. everybody would be trying to check out her network within 17 mile and each person trying to authenticate themselves will steal a little bit of bandwidth and each one will add up. hugesnet will cut back on internet bandwidth if MB exceeds said amount and will not tell you until you call and check.

Read your contract with any internet service provider. It is illegal to share the connection, wired, wireless or any other way. They can prosecute you for theft.

The bridge units I mentioned are set up to talk only to each other. Point to point only. The directional antennas make if very hard to look at them from a different angle as well. Also, since the two houses he is talking about are only 600' apart and direct line of sight, I doubt there will be many snoopers looking at it. :thumbsup: As I recall, there is also selectable power settings in those radios so you can turn down the power to lower the effective range.

 

[MossRoad]

How is trying to get internet from your neighbor, with their knowledge and permission, illegal? It might be a violation of the terms of service for his neighbor, but that doesn't make it criminal.

Keith

Illegal may be the improper term. However, it is theft. The neighbor that has the contract with the internet service provider can be charged with theft. Theft, as I understand it, is criminal. Am I mistaken? I don't think so, but would appreciate a good discussion.

 

[zzvyb6]

I bought a 1000' roll of CAT6 underground cable and I can run my Security cameras and DVR thru it to any computer and router. It was from eBay with connectors already on it. Could you then run a slave router with wireless broadcast off of hers using the hardwire connection?

 

[MossRoad]

If you tell the OP what he wants to do is illegal, and you provide advice on how to accomplish such an illegal end, doesn't that implicate you REGARDLESS of your cautionary warning? Keep this going, guys, I want to learn a way to do it...illegal or not.

Nope. I am as pure as the driven snow in the eyes of the law and in my moral conscience. :dance1:

I told him how to hook up a point to point internet connection. That's all I told him how to do. He could do the same thing between his house and his barn or his work and his home. If he chooses to steal internet access in cahoots with his neighbor, that is up to him and his neighbor. I am in no way shape or form condoning that dubious dastardly deed.

 

[beppington]

As for illegal hook up- if it was direct wire connection, how can it be since his neighbor expressed saying go ahead , borrow my network?

If your neighbor says go ahead & borrow my cable TV via direct wire connection, that's illegal. Prob not much difference here, but then I don't know OP's neighbor's internet provider, their T&C's, details of the agreement, etc.

 

[k0ua]

I bought a 1000' roll of CAT6 underground cable and I can run my Security cameras and DVR thru it to any computer and router. It was from eBay with connectors already on it. Could you then run a slave router with wireless broadcast off of hers using the hardwire connection?

Yes, just make sure that the network you put into the WAN port on your router is a different one than your LAN network. In otherwords, different subnets for WAN and LAN. I dont know how much connectivity you are going to get over 1000 foot of CAT6 tho. I have run about 500 foot, and there was some degredation. but 1000 foot is way way way out of the 328 foot spec called for. I am not sure you will get a link with 1000 foot. may depend on the NIC's on each end. Let us know how well it works.
And don't forget about the lightning problem, any copper wire in the ground is a lightning magnet. You know fiber is cheap, and impervious to lighting, and the electronics on each end are getting cheaper every day. Or maybe you dont have much lighting where you live, but we sure do here.

James K0UA