grease question

[ultrarunner]

I bought a case from TRC and at my rate... it will be a lifetime supply.

The water spec is interesting if you are out working in all kinds of weather and maybe even if the equipment is store outside... not sure it would be a deal breaker when all my work is done in dry conditions and my Backhoe spends 99% of it's life in the family garage.

Anyone know what happened to DieselPower? Mike provided lots of lubricant expertise and no longer posts?

 

[John Morgan]

Sure...Those 50 tube cases when you have 1 piece of equipment will absolutely last a very long time. On top of the fact TRC makes a quality product, I don't want anyone to think I'm knock'n TRC. There are several high performing, top notch lubricants available. Next time you go to buy a lubricant, other than grease, think about evaluating what Schaeffers is capable of and get back to me.

 

[ultrarunner]

There are a few lubricants that are getting hard to come by for my antique cars.

I have about 3 quarts left of Ford Model A 600w gear oil in the original tins.

Also, non-detergent 40 weight motor oil is no longer on the shelves... Before a certain date, cars did not have oil filters... my understanding is detergent oil keeps contaminants in suspension so the filter can remove them... not really a good thing when the motor has no filter.

Water Pump grease is another... lucky for me, I have a lifetime supply of the stuff given to me from the owner of an old garage that went out of business.

Cam Oil for the 1905 Olds is whatever is handy... there is no oilpan on the engine and lubrication is by the drip system with no recovery.

ATF for cars made in the 50's and 60's is also confusing... the old stuff I have says exactly what it is for... the new stuff doesn't list old vehicles like a 57 Ford, 57 Chevrolet or even 64 Mustang.

Any modern cross-references appreciated.

 

[daman1]

There are a few lubricants that are getting hard to come by for my antique cars.

I have about 3 quarts left of Ford Model A 600w gear oil in the original tins.

Also, non-detergent 40 weight motor oil is no longer on the shelves... Before a certain date, cars did not have oil filters... my understanding is detergent oil keeps contaminants in suspension so the filter can remove them... not really a good thing when the motor has no filter.

Water Pump grease is another... lucky for me, I have a lifetime supply of the stuff given to me from the owner of an old garage that went out of business.

Cam Oil for the 1905 Olds is whatever is handy... there is no oilpan on the engine and lubrication is by the drip system with no recovery.

ATF for cars made in the 50's and 60's is also confusing... the old stuff I have says exactly what it is for... the new stuff doesn't list old vehicles like a 57 Ford, 57 Chevrolet or even 64 Mustang.

Any modern cross-references appreciated.

Wow interesting i couldn't imagine this,you must be from older generation! (no disrespect intended)

 

[ultrarunner]

Wow interesting i couldn't imagine this,you must be from older generation! (no disrespect intended)

Not exactly... although, most of my good friends are in their 80's to 90's...

I was the youngest member of my local Model A Ford Club when I joined 38 years ago and I am still the youngest!

 

[daman1]

I see..

 

[ultrarunner]

Thanks, I'm researching it now.

Any recommendations from your research?

 

[John Morgan]

My recommendation remains Schaeffers 238 Ultra Supreme and heres why:

Calcium Sulfonate greases similar to Lithium greases will emulsify with water just not as much. The Aluminum Complex thickener Schaeffers uses is water proof. Thats easy to confirm check Wikipedia. Advantage Schaeffer

The Amsoil off road grease uses a high end synthetic base oil. Thats no surprise, Amsoil is known for their oil quality. Schaeffers base oil is also of significant quality. The difference here is Calcium Sulfonate thickeners require about 20%-25% by volume for sufficient texture and only has about 55%-60% reversibility. Aluminum Complex is 5%-8% by volume and has 99% reversibilty. Advantage Schaeffer.

Friction modifiers. The Amsoil off-road reports a 5% moly which meets Cat spec for pins and bushings. There is no other information about any other solid lubricants. The Schaeffer 238 has 5% moly and graphite for the solid lubricant package. I'll call this one even since there is missing information.

You can get Schaeffers 238 for around $4.00/tube and free shipping with min purchase. Amsoil is going to be about twice that or more without a brother-in-law deal. Advantage Schaeffer.

 

[ultrarunner]

Any cross-references for the antique and classics in my post?

 

[John Morgan]

My reference guides don't go back that far. I will contact my resources on Monday and see what they tell me.