Hello , my name is Adam and am new to TractorByNet site. I am a new tractor owner and need some pointers on some maint. on my tractor. Will start with this: why does my tractor have tow oil filters? and where should I look for the tractor year and model of my tractor. thanks
Why does my Ford 3000 tractor have two oil filters
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k0ua
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Most likely one oil filter, one hydraulic filter. As an example my tractor has 3 filters, one oil, one hydraulic filter, and one filter just for the the Hydostatic transmission.
There is a gentleman on here whose handle is soundman that is an expert in the older Ford tractors. You might send him a PM if you have anything specific you need. Like the location of the Ident plates, or perhaps he will see this thread Welcome to TBN
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There is a gentleman on here whose handle is soundman that is an expert in the older Ford tractors. You might send him a PM if you have anything specific you need. Like the location of the Ident plates, or perhaps he will see this thread Welcome to TBN
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Actually, multiple filters are a good thing. More filtering capacity and increased oil capacity too.
Some large diesels have 3 and 4.
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WELCOME to TBN
I moved your thread to the Ford Vintage Tractors Forum.
I moved your thread to the Ford Vintage Tractors Forum.
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are you sure you are not seeing a dual filter head with 2 fuel filters on it? perhaps you have a early 3000 and it has it's oil filter hidden under a canister on the sid eof the engine instead of a regular spin on.
look at the 3 pics I post. first 2 show 2 white filters on my 3000.. they are fuel filters.. is this what you are seeing on the right side?
on the last pic.. it is left side.. look above the front tire, below the hood, and aft of the black generator.. that 'canister' is the oil filter for a early model.
post back.. or post some pics.
also.. under the moveable hood part that covers the battery there should be an id tag with model id and sn.
that info is also stamped on the clutch/trans bellhousing flat aft of the starter..
post back the info / numbers found there. early 3000 units will have a 3 as the first digit of the model ID.. later units 4-68 or newer will have a model ID starting with C.
sn's can start with the letters A, B, or C.. A for antwerp belgium, B for basildon england, or C for here in america. most units I see are C sn prefix, with some B and a very occasional A.
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Ty for your reply. My filter is on the left side, as in your third pic. Will try and send a pick in a few days. I believe now, one is an oil filter and the other is a transmission filter. They are just in close proxemity to each other, but today I traced the device that one filter is attached and it had a line going to opposite side of tractor and into the transmission housing. Will also get the numbers from under the hood and let you know what they are. Sorry for being so simplistic, just my first tractor.
Question: when I am bushing, and I run across palmettos or even lesser type of weeds, my pto will jump out of gear. I reduce the rpms and try to put it back into gear you can hear it grinding, but it does go into gear until I hit the next patch of rough weeds. What do u think the problem is?
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Question: when I am bushing, and I run across palmettos or even lesser type of weeds, my pto will jump out of gear. I reduce the rpms and try to put it back into gear you can hear it grinding, but it does go into gear until I hit the next patch of rough weeds. What do u think the problem is?
Thanks
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are you sure you have a 3000 and not a 3600. there is a hyd pump up there on the left that could have a filter in colse proximity to the engine oil filter.
as for the pto jumping out.
with machine off, and nothing hooked to the pto, grab the pto stub and pull/push on it and see if it has any in/out movement.
if so, it will allow itself to walk it's sliding dog clutch out of engagement, and eventually chew up the pto shaft spline and the dog clutch, and I have even seen it mushroom the inner end of the pto shaft from the slap, making it VERY HARD to remove the shaft.
usually the in / out is from a slipped wear ring, or a slipped C-clip aft of the bearing, less often it is from a damaged bearing carrier, not holding hte c-clip in it's groove. and even less often it is from a bad bearing. if the bearing is bad it likely has side to side play as well as the in / out, and this usually menas in need sit's pto seal repalced as the bad bearing will allow the shaft to hog out the seal.
other possibilities are a bad detent not holding the shaft linkage engaged.
ps.. pto shaft rehad is pretty easy on a manual gear tranny... either as a repalcement assy or some parts and 20 minutes on the bench..
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as for the pto jumping out.
with machine off, and nothing hooked to the pto, grab the pto stub and pull/push on it and see if it has any in/out movement.
if so, it will allow itself to walk it's sliding dog clutch out of engagement, and eventually chew up the pto shaft spline and the dog clutch, and I have even seen it mushroom the inner end of the pto shaft from the slap, making it VERY HARD to remove the shaft.
usually the in / out is from a slipped wear ring, or a slipped C-clip aft of the bearing, less often it is from a damaged bearing carrier, not holding hte c-clip in it's groove. and even less often it is from a bad bearing. if the bearing is bad it likely has side to side play as well as the in / out, and this usually menas in need sit's pto seal repalced as the bad bearing will allow the shaft to hog out the seal.
other possibilities are a bad detent not holding the shaft linkage engaged.
ps.. pto shaft rehad is pretty easy on a manual gear tranny... either as a repalcement assy or some parts and 20 minutes on the bench..
soundguy
Sound guy,
I looked at tractor today and you are right the 2nd filter is a hydraulic filter. Does this mean it is a 3600? The stenciling reads 3000. The hydraulic housing reads Belgium. Forgot to get numbers from under hood today, will get back to you when I get them.
Was removing my bush hog shaft from pto and it would not just slide off. I thought it would be easy to remove so I could check the shaft play. Again any ideas?
I looked at tractor today and you are right the 2nd filter is a hydraulic filter. Does this mean it is a 3600? The stenciling reads 3000. The hydraulic housing reads Belgium. Forgot to get numbers from under hood today, will get back to you when I get them.
Was removing my bush hog shaft from pto and it would not just slide off. I thought it would be easy to remove so I could check the shaft play. Again any ideas?
whodat526
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yes if it has a filter on the hyd pump it is a x600 series tractor
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likely could be a 3600.. or some kind of mutt.
get the numbers from under the hood, and fromthe bellhousing flat and psot them.
also.. the pto shaft should have a quick release pin, or roll pin or roll cam lock holding it on... some have a push / pull release as well.
post a pic of the shaft end and we can tell you more.
soundguy
get the numbers from under the hood, and fromthe bellhousing flat and psot them.
also.. the pto shaft should have a quick release pin, or roll pin or roll cam lock holding it on... some have a push / pull release as well.
post a pic of the shaft end and we can tell you more.
soundguy
Sound guy, you ask me awhile back to send you the numbers from under the hood on my tractor, they are as follows: 246312. Model. C1 0113C 5A29B. Eng. 706745 A28. Maybe you will be able to tell me series and year by these numbers, many thanks. Also let my ford run out of fuel the other day and now having a hard time restarting, any hints. Oh thanks for your help, I finally got the bush hog attachment off the pto. It was a series of push one direction and then push collar underneath in opposite direction, then remove attachment. Thanks.
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It looks like your tractor is a 1965 (5A29b = 1965 January 29, day shift) 3000 Super Dexta w/Ser. No. C101130 (the last character must be a numeral, not a letter). The serial number range began at 100000 in about mid-1964 with the introduction of the 3-cylinder tractors taking place in September, 1964. The Super Dexta designation was dropped rather quickly, along with Dexta, Major and Super Major - too English sounding.
whodat526
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dont go by the numbers from under the hood it could be switch from another tractor if you have a hyd filter mounted on the pump it is a x600 series or a cobled up tractor. take the numbers off the bellhousing that is where you date a ford tractor not the hood
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i agree with whodat. the hyd filter mounted on the pump would tend to make it a x600 or later.. or a mut.
we need to see pics.
soundguy
we need to see pics.
soundguy
I just got an old 68 Ford 3000 (from what I am told) with a front end loader. They guy I got it from said the local New Holland Dealer could not tell exactly what model it was.
On the tranny/bell housing by the brake pedal:
C5NN 70062
On the engine Block right side rear
6F 11c
*044093*
Hard seeing the numbers... shes an oldie!
I am going to put in a new battery, old one froze, and do an oil and filter change.
What Oil Filter does the Ford 3000 take? and where can one find that filter? Tractor Supply carry them ?
Found this thread and looking forward to getting some answers and help with my first tractor !
Thanks in advance.
On the tranny/bell housing by the brake pedal:
C5NN 70062
On the engine Block right side rear
6F 11c
*044093*
Hard seeing the numbers... shes an oldie!
I am going to put in a new battery, old one froze, and do an oil and filter change.
What Oil Filter does the Ford 3000 take? and where can one find that filter? Tractor Supply carry them ?
Found this thread and looking forward to getting some answers and help with my first tractor !
Thanks in advance.
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post the model id code fromthe under-hood tag or the trans bellhousing aft of the starter.
Does it use a spin on filter or a canister filter?
if a spin oil filter on any of the following fit: napa 1515, 1452, motorcraft fl1a, fram ph8a, supertech st8a
fram ch14pl is the canister oil filter element..
soundguy
Does it use a spin on filter or a canister filter?
if a spin oil filter on any of the following fit: napa 1515, 1452, motorcraft fl1a, fram ph8a, supertech st8a
fram ch14pl is the canister oil filter element..
soundguy
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There is a 1981 4610 in the shop right now with an engine driven piston pump and no filter. Parts catalog shows that pump listed for that tractor. Was quite an eye-opener for a few of us, as we all thought it 'should' have a gear pump for certain.
