Loader DS3510 3rd funtion Kit

[Kioti Tom]

Finally took pictures of my 3rd function kit installation. Not too bad an installation. Kioti DS3510 with KL352 loader. I think I will make a metallic
guard for the setup. Unable to install inside loader arms for protection, No space available. Switch on handle on side where easy to activate with thumb.

 

[Kioti Tom]

The grapple is the one I got at the local equipment auction last week at Rogers, Ohio. Got a 42" pallet fork also at same auction.

 

[Coyote machine]

Nice work.:thumbsup:
Where did you get the valve?
Is there a way to put 90's on the top hoses to lower them from getting caught on things?

 

[Kioti Tom]

I got the 3rd function kit from Everything Attachments.

As for the 90's, yes I could put them on, but with all the running arround I did to get the parts I did end up with, I decided to get it together and try it out.
I will be looking for the 90's today. The DS3510 and the KL352 are all 3/8 fittings and TSC only carries 1 or 2 male/female kits per store. I ended going to 4 stores to get enough kits for everything and forgot about the 90's.

Of course, you don't expect me to get it to where I couldn't try it out?
works Great.

 

[Kioti Tom]

Coyote Machine,
I did modify the upper hoses. Got the 90 degree put on the fittings. Drops the hoses a lot and can use less steel for the guard I am designing to protect the valve since it is outside the vertical FEL mount post.

 

[Coyote machine]

Coyote Machine,
I did modify the upper hoses. Got the 90 degree put on the fittings. Drops the hoses a lot and can use less steel for the guard I am designing to protect the valve since it is outside the vertical FEL mount post.

Looks good. Wondering if you put the 90's on the valve and pointed the QA's toward the seat/wheel if you might be able to get everything lower still without having to build a high shield to protect everything. You might have to add another pair of 90's to accomplish this, but it might be safer for the hoses/valve/QA's.

 

[Kioti Tom]

Looks good. Wondering if you put the 90's on the valve and pointed the QA's toward the seat/wheel if you might be able to get everything lower still without having to build a high shield to protect everything. You might have to add another pair of 90's to accomplish this, but it might be safer for the hoses/valve/QA's.

I would try but all the fittings at the valve itself are straight thread and have O-Rings for sealing on them.could put the 90 itself on the valve fittings, but, did not want to mess with those fittings if I could help it. I am an Aircraft Maint. Tech. and mess with O-Rings and they can get nicked, cut, damaged just looking at them it seems. Then they leak. So, I don't want to pull them to get fittings on..

Thanks for asking tho.

Tom

 

[Kiotikarl]

I had my diverter valve installed on the loader, although i have nothing to use it for.

 

[Kioti Tom]

I had my diverter valve installed on the loader, although i have nothing to use it for.

The diverter or bypass valve works very well with snowplows if you hit a rock or something when angled. lets fluid bypass between actuators to avoid damage.

What I installed is a 3rd function valve to operate grapples, FEL plow/blade actuators and the like. Requires electrical power and has wires running to the joystick handle switch (supplied) and also to a permanet hot wire attach.

I am going to make a snow plow QA out of my Dearborn snow plow. And then I will be making it hydraulicaly adjustable. (add actuators) So, I think I may want to buy a bypass valve real soon.

Tom

 

[Kioti Tom]

Wow! There are a lot of different things running around in this thread and there may be a lot of confusion going on. A "3rd function" FEL kit is normally a electric diverter valve operated by a button on the joystick to give a third function to the normal lift and curl functions of the FEL. A "rear remote" kit can do the same thing if you run hoses all the way up to the loader and use the remote lever instead of a button on the joystick. This rear remote can also be used for any function on the 3PH by disconnecting hoses to the loader and attaching them to something on the 3PH like a hydraulic toplink. This is the kind of kit that holtzacres is talking about.

jjbath, is talking about a rear remote kit on a TC35 which is a whole different class of tractor from the TC30 the OP originally asked about. jjbath, if you check at Messicks.com, I think you will find the cost of the first rear remote kit for your tractor is about $550. You can add two more for a total of 3 remotes, and #2 and #3 are a little less than the first one. I haven't checked, but that is fairly close to the right price. If you don't know how to check, I'll try to assist you.

I believe this explaination by Gumby6 over on the New Holland site may help.

 

[Coyote machine]

I would try but all the fittings at the valve itself are straight thread and have O-Rings for sealing on them.could put the 90 itself on the valve fittings, but, did not want to mess with those fittings if I could help it. I am an Aircraft Maint. Tech. and mess with O-Rings and they can get nicked, cut, damaged just looking at them it seems. Then they leak. So, I don't want to pull them to get fittings on..

Thanks for asking tho.

Tom

Tom, No problem- I hear you on the o-rings and such- better left alone what already works.
What's your thinking on how you're going to protect the lines/valve?

 

[Coyote machine]

I had my diverter valve installed on the loader, although i have nothing to use it for.

I'll PM you my postal address to help you out

 

[Coyote machine]

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I believe this explaination by Gumby6 over on the New Holland site may help.

Link please....

 

[MtnViewRanch]

If you guys don't mind me asking, how much are you paying for the electric diverter valves and what all comes with them?

 

[Kiotikarl]

If you guys don't mind me asking, how much are you paying for the electric diverter valves and what all comes with them?

Mine did cost 550$ installed with all hoses and fittings, ready to use. Thats up here in Quebec so don't know how much you guys are paying.

 

[TCJatko]

To the OP: Are those elbows you put on the top steel and designed for high-pressure use? To my eye they look suspiciously like galvanized pipe elbows. If steel, please disregard.

 

[Kioti Tom]

Yep, Steel fittings. I would not use anything else on my tractors. I have used aluminum fittings for 3000 psi on aircraft, but, my tractors are not aircraft.

As for the guard, I was thinking 1/8 steel bent into a "U". 1-1/2 leg, then a leg to cover the valve, with the 3rd leg about 1-1/2 bent at a 45 going aft.
the first leg will have the 2 bolts thru.

Everything above the sentence "I think this explaination" was the explaination. Where I found it is listed below. Reason I found it, was it had been referenced in another thread.

TractorByNet.com > New Holland/Ford > New Holland Owning/Operating

"TC30 3rd function kit for FEL"

This link was started 11-22-2005

Hope this helps
Tom

 

[Coyote machine]

To the OP: Are those elbows you put on the top steel and designed for high-pressure use? To my eye they look suspiciously like galvanized pipe elbows. If steel, please disregard.

Yeah, I saw what I thought was the same thing, and I was wondering if they are suitable for the application...
I take it they're not if galvanized?

Wow, Guess Tom and I posted answers/questions at essentially the same time....

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Yep, Steel fittings. I would not use anything else on my tractors. I have used aluminum fittings for 3000 psi on aircraft, but, my tractors are not aircraft.

As for the guard, I was thinking 1/8 steel bent into a "U". 1-1/2 leg, then a leg to cover the valve, with the 3rd leg about 1-1/2 bent at a 45 going aft.
the first leg will have the 2 bolts thru.

Everything above the sentence "I think this explaination" was the explaination. Where I found it is listed below. Reason I found it, was it had been referenced in another thread.

TractorByNet.com > New Holland/Ford > New Holland Owning/Operating

"TC30 3rd function kit for FEL"

This link was started 11-22-2005

Hope this helps
Tom

Tom, I know that you said that the 90s were steel and not aluminum, but are they high pressure steel? I have never seen a hydraulic 90 like what you have there. It looks like it is for water or gas.

 

[Kioti Tom]

Tom, I know that you said that the 90s were steel and not aluminum, but are they high press ure steel? I have never seen a hydraulic 90 like what you have there. It looks like it is for water or gas.

I know. They are temporary. I had to order all the proper steel ones I needed. Only found two in the 4 TSC stores I went to. I should be changing them out by next saturday If I am lucky and they come in.

If I wanted to do tubing, I have the flareing tool for the JIC fitting. There is no big problem using the 37 degree JIC with the 37-1/2 degree aviation flare. Much better than using the automotive 45 degree flares that some use. I no longer have a source for the aviation steel fittings. Unless, I ordered from Aircraft Spruce or similar company.
Still, It is cheaper to buy from TSC or such as those fittings do not have an FAA PMA. (Federal Avia. Admin. - Parts Manufacturing Approval. Which in my opinion, jumps the price up greatly)