DK 45 50 hour service

[murphy1244]

Nobody said the oil needed changed every 50 hours.
They said its the first 50 hours then every 400 .

I know vince but why not every 50 hours???? More the better right???

 

[DK35vince]

I know vince but why not every 50 hours???? More the better right???

My owners manual says change the hydraulic oil at the first 50 hours, then every 300 hours after that.
Do I think the oil needs changed that often ? NO I do not.
I changed my hydraulic oil the first time at 100 hours for 1 reason only. Warrenty.
I didn't want to risk my warrenty if I had a problem.
My second hydraulic oil change I went 600 hours and the oil still looked like new.
My last hydraulic oil change I ran it 800 hours and when I changed it the oil still looked like new, so I plan to run this new oil 1000 hours before I change it again.
I do change the hydraulic filter every few hundred hours.
My front axle oil gets changed on the same schedule as the hydraulic oil.

 

[murphy1244]

My owners manual says change the hydraulic oil at the first 50 hours, then every 300 hours after that.
Do I think the oil needs changed that often ? NO I do not.
I changed my hydraulic oil the first time at 100 hours for 1 reason only. Warrenty.
I didn't want to risk my warrenty if I had a problem.
My second hydraulic oil change I went 600 hours and the oil still looked like new.
My last hydraulic oil change I ran it 800 hours and when I changed it the oil still looked like new, so I plan to run this new oil 1000 hours before I change it again.
I do change the hydraulic filter every few hundred hours.
My front axle oil gets changed on the same schedule as the hydraulic oil.

My service manual says no hydra oil change till 400 hours.

 

[grsthegreat]

For what its worth my Service book does not have that dot and I am done with this. You want to change your fluid every 50 hours/ Have at it, not me. If you guy's lived closer I would have liked to pickup your overused oil....

what amazes me is you stated earlier that you prefilter your hydraulic oil....that worrys you. but you steadfastly refuse to believe that a 50 hour change would be a good thing to do. if nothing more than added protection of an expensive piece of equipment

 

[IslandTractor]

what amazes me is you stated earlier that you prefilter your hydraulic oil....that worrys you. but you steadfastly refuse to believe that a 50 hour change would be a good thing to do. if nothing more than added protection of an expensive piece of equipment

I don't find it so hard to understand. At 50hrs the oil is hardly likely to have lost critical performance characteristics and most manufacturers don't seem to recommend such an early change. Does anyone think automatic transmission fluid in a car needs to be changed after 3000 miles? If the fluid has wear particles from break in then either the filters take those out efficiently or your HST oil should be changed a lot sooner than 50 hours. Why tolerate debris from manufacture or initial wear for 50 hours unless it is reliably filtered? On top of that, there is always the risk of a screw up or contamination when changing fluids.

I replaced mine per maintenance schedule shortly after 50hr but it felt really dumb.

 

[murphy1244]

what amazes me is you stated earlier that you prefilter your hydraulic oil....that worrys you. but you steadfastly refuse to believe that a 50 hour change would be a good thing to do. if nothing more than added protection of an expensive piece of equipment

I said my work filters there oil!!!!! Quit being a lawyer. And go change your oil!!!:laughing:

 

[CJONE]

See 1-17, in the SERVICE book NOT the owners book. No warranty problem.I am sooo done with you...Go spend your money fool.

Fool?? Amazing, try to help someone and you get called names. Like I said have a nice day. CJ

 

[CJONE]

I was just thinking about that today..sounds like a good idea..

James K0UA

If you need any info from the service manual let me know. CJ

 

[CJONE]

I don't find it so hard to understand. At 50hrs the oil is hardly likely to have lost critical performance characteristics and most manufacturers don't seem to recommend such an early change. Does anyone think automatic transmission fluid in a car needs to be changed after 3000 miles? If the fluid has wear particles from break in then either the filters take those out efficiently or your HST oil should be changed a lot sooner than 50 hours. Why tolerate debris from manufacture or initial wear for 50 hours unless it is reliably filtered? On top of that, there is always the risk of a screw up or contamination when changing fluids.

I replaced mine per maintenance schedule shortly after 50hr but it felt really dumb.

If it did not effect what Kioti specs for warrany then I would not be dumping the oil either. If I could check all the drain plugs and magnets for metal it would not bother me to do that and just change the filters. But if asked what is it worth to be 100% honest. CJ

 

[IslandTractor]

If it did not effect what Kioti specs for warrany then I would not be dumping the oil either. If I could check all the drain plugs and magnets for metal it would not bother me to do that and just change the filters. But if asked what is it worth to be 100% honest. CJ

I agree. It is disappointing when companies take a CYA approach and force the customer to bear unnecessary expense as well as waste perfectly good and expensive natural resources. You'd think that in this era of mucho expensive oil products that engineers would incorporate simple ways of cleaning out metal filings and making filter changes without loss of much oil. It is particularly galling as HST pump and transmission failures seem to be almost rare as hen's teeth with modern CUTs. I appreciate that when we attach hydraulic implements we break into the system but that is what filters are for and it certainly doesn't degrade the lubrication or other qualities of the oil. I really wonder if there is greater risk in fiddling with the oil change than there is in just leaving the system alone or just changing the filter. I also wonder what is so different about automobile ATs that allows Mercedes and others to essentially load them with ATF at the factory and seal them so that nothing needs to be touched or even checked (there is no transmission dipstick anymore) for 100,000 miles (2000hrs or so)? Aren't ATs and HST systems kissing cousins in terms of wear and protection?